So Lantley I'm an extreme jerk for picking up the hatchet. Let me just informe you a little bit. I'm exmilitary, been in law enforcement for over 25 years. The hatchett was laying on the picknick table where I had used it to chop some fire wood that morning. I was in the RV. My wife was sitting under the awning reading. She wasn't looking out for the dog that invaded (our) camp site and was now 15ft away from her growing with it's teeth showing. I came out of the RV and grabbed the first thing that was close by to do whatever I needed to defend my wife and myself. If you want to get into a brawl with a dog and duke it out bare handed then more power to you Mr. Ninja. However, my training tells me that using something other than your hands to defend yourself against an animal keeps you from going to the ER to get stitches or a cast on your hand then be out of work for the next month. So if that makes me an extreme jerk then so be it. Maybe next time I'll just see if there is a dog whisperer around and see if he can just "talk" to the dog. Maybe if you're in the neighborhood you could do that for me.