defrager alternatives.

Actually the later iterations of Windows run defrag when the computer is idle, so the HDD gets defragged even though you aren't aware of it.

fj12ryder wrote:
Actually the later iterations of Windows run defrag when the computer is idle, so the HDD gets defragged even though you aren't aware of it.

XP and older does not do it automatically but Win 7 and 8.X do. If SSD the operating system will not defrag as not required/wanted.

Never needed anything other than the Windows utility since NT4.0. It works as well as anything else and is free.

So, so much misinformation in this thread.

Defragging a hard drive, with the Windows defragger or free/or purchased 3rd party defragging program, defragging is beneficial. In regard to an SSD, do not defrag.

sherlock62 wrote:
So, so much misinformation in this thread.

Defragging a hard drive, with the Windows defragger or free/or purchased 3rd party defragging program, defragging is beneficial. In regard to an SSD, do not defrag.

^^^^^^Like you said: "So, so much misinformation in this thread."

sherlock62 wrote:
So, so much misinformation in this thread.

It's risky coming here for solid technical information.

fj12ryder wrote:

sherlock62 wrote:
So, so much misinformation in this thread.

Defragging a hard drive, with the Windows defragger or free/or purchased 3rd party defragging program, defragging is beneficial. In regard to an SSD, do not defrag.

^^^^^^Like you said: "So, so much misinformation in this thread."

fj12ryder... To clarify my thoughts.. Indeed, in the year 2015 to initiate a defrag (3rd party or Windows defrag) is not a priority as defragging is done lets say automatically by the OS.(for example, Windows 7, by default, sets up a schedule to defrag the hard drive.) But.. but, the computer usually waits for an idle moment to do the defrag if it can't do as it automatically scheduled itself to do it.. MOST home computer users turn on the computer, use it and then shut it right down. The computer thus, never gets / does not have the opportunity to do the defrag.. For the computer user to initiate a defrag(3rd party or Windows defrag) is not required lets say but for the reasons I just mentioned to do a defrag / to initiate a defrag is often a positive thing. And no, you never want to defrag an SSD. To slip up and defrag an SSD in error does not mean disaster but it is to be avoided.

sherlock62 wrote:
And no, you never want to defrag an SSD. To slip up and defrag an SSD in error does not mean disaster but it is to be avoided.

Win 8.1, which I am on now will not let you run a defrag on a SSD drive, Win 7 the same. The OS is getting to the point that it will protect itself and it's hardware from "unqualified" users. Most users have no idea the utility is even there or how to get to it, use it, or even what it does and why it might be needed. This is in most cases a good idea.

shum02 wrote:

sherlock62 wrote:
And no, you never want to defrag an SSD. To slip up and defrag an SSD in error does not mean disaster but it is to be avoided.

Win 8.1, which I am on now will not let you run a defrag on a SSD drive, Win 7 the same. The OS is getting to the point that it will protect itself and it's hardware from "unqualified" users. Most users have no idea the utility is even there or how to get to it, use it, or even what it does and why it might be needed. This is in most cases a good idea.

Yup........ Same seen in Win 10.

sherlock62 wrote:

fj12ryder wrote:

sherlock62 wrote:
So, so much misinformation in this thread.

Defragging a hard drive, with the Windows defragger or free/or purchased 3rd party defragging program, defragging is beneficial. In regard to an SSD, do not defrag.

^^^^^^Like you said: "So, so much misinformation in this thread."

fj12ryder... To clarify my thoughts.. Indeed, in the year 2015 to initiate a defrag (3rd party or Windows defrag) is not a priority as defragging is done lets say automatically by the OS.(for example, Windows 7, by default, sets up a schedule to defrag the hard drive.) But.. but, the computer usually waits for an idle moment to do the defrag if it can't do as it automatically scheduled itself to do it.. MOST home computer users turn on the computer, use it and then shut it right down. The computer thus, never gets / does not have the opportunity to do the defrag.. For the computer user to initiate a defrag(3rd party or Windows defrag) is not required lets say but for the reasons I just mentioned to do a defrag / to initiate a defrag is often a positive thing. And no, you never want to defrag an SSD. To slip up and defrag an SSD in error does not mean disaster but it is to be avoided.

Ah, okay now I understand from where you're coming. I really hadn't considered the fact that people may not be leaving their computers on long enough for the OS to run the defrag program. You make a decent point about that. Which means that a third party defrag program may actually serve a purpose.

I'm glad you explained it for me because I sure wouldn't have thought of that on my own. Always nice to hear other logical explanations. Thanks.

Anyone know how to stop the Win 7 auto defrag?