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Big_Katuna
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Aug 27, 2013

HD Flat panel, SWM conversion in Class A completed

Just finished up replacing the old tube TV's with flat panel HD's and converting to SWM.

I started by having DTV come out to the house and replacing all my old stuff with a new SWM LNB and three HD Dvrs, two year recommit required.

I got a power inserter, SWM3 LNB (smaller than the 5) and 4X splitter for the RV tripod from the installer-$30. Also got two diplexers to combine OTA and Sat signal on one cable.

Measured my openings and found TV's that fit the width of the old trim perfectly, made fillers for the top of the front TV and built a short box/stand for the rear that has room for a sat box under the tv.

The front TV has a sound output that feeds the Surround Sound amp, so when I change inputs from sat to Blu-Ray or OTA, the sound is there.

Since I was losing the old Winegard switch box, I wanted an OTA amp so I bought the Sensar Pro Winegard OTA signal meter, which I could not be more pleased with. I pick up twice as many stations. Another advantage is that it has two out puts; I use one directly to the front TV, the second I fed to a diplexer to combine sat sig and OTA sig over the factory cable that runs the rear tv, the other diplexer is in the bedroom.

This works just fine. I had been told you can not diplex SWM and OTA, but it works just fine.

I used the factory cable that runs from the AV area to the outside utility area that was supposed to be for park cable to connect to the Slimline. This also works fine. I haven't used park cable in years. We are either tailgating or in state parks.

The big advantage of SWM to me was that now I run one cable from the dish to the park cable input and run two HD DVR's on one cable. The power inserter and 4-way splitter are all in the AV area by the antenna, front tv and amp. Plus I have a smaller LNB than the old LNB 5.

I also have a third TV outside with a sat box I used to connect to the dish with two separate cables, which I now will feed from the sat box in the bedroom. I have to run a 35' HDMI cable for that. I hope an RF remote control will allow me to change channels from outside. I connect the sat box to the bedroom tv via component cables, outside tv with HDMI from the same box. No OTA for the outside TV, will never be an issue.

I also made sure both house and RV LNB's and splitters are the same so I never have to change dish types in setup.

I still need to clean up some of the wiring. I need 4 or 5 14" long co-ax patch cords and get rid of some three footers that are coiled up.

Just glad it all works. Football starts this weekend.
  • why in the world did you need 3 dvr's? that seems alot more expensive then a genie setup with only 1 less tuner?

    i have direct,i can barely find one thing to watch, let alone 6 at the same time
  • I don't need three DVRs but they were free, so why not. I like pausing to go get something. I turned down Genie.

    Why? Genie cost more per month, you still need a wire to every box and most importantly, if you lose the master box you are out of business. I have had a box fail per year pretty regularly. I carry a non-DVR box as a spare so never suffer down time.
    FYI for those that don't know, DVR and HD charges are per account, not per box.
  • would love to know how u got more then 1 dvr for free. i was able to get 1 for free. each other was 199. guess you got lucky, i ran through as a new customer a couple times. i only get 1 for free....

    is this not typical?
  • Bought one from DTV when HD first came out.
    Got a second a few years ago N/C when I renegotiated re-signing.
    Bought a used SD DVR several years ago for the RV.
    They upgraded all three to the newest SWM in this last re-signing.

    So technically I bought two over the years.
  • After about three calls to DTV I got Genie. Three of my receivers are compatible with with the genie and they only put on a client on the back of those receivers and can be use if the Main Genie unit goes out and I can take for my RV. The other two receivers I have are old not compatible and will be replace with the Genie and one client. Sytem will all have to be converted to SWM. All FREE with a $50 install fee. The last agent I talked to has the same setup and got hit by lighten and was still able to have TV on the regular receivers that wernt hurt.
  • I agree with not giving up your pre-Genie HR's. Once they're gone they are not coming back. If you are strictly RV, a Genie with Clients are pretty ideal when it comes to setup and saving space. A WiFi HR44 may be even better but they aren't widely available yet.

    For me, I've opted to just use an HR24 on the road and split the HDMI between two sets. I also use a five-way HDMI switch to distribute DTV, DVD, Roku, Chromecast and an extra Aux input with the two sets.