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sherlock62
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Aug 19, 2017

Kaspersky Anti-Virus FREE Edition

Just wanted to let those here know that Kaspersky Anti-Virus Free Edition is available. I have been running/testing/evaluating this free version since its release a few weeks ago. Anyway, very effective, very clean interface and absolutely no friggin ads like you are bombarded with, with other free anti-virus programs. For example AVG Anti-Virus free, these day, will bombard you repeatedly each day with ads and such. Anyway, I encourage you to uninstall your current free anti-virus program and install Kaspersky free that you can find here. Evaluate it and take the time to comment here about it

p.s. Yes, I know the United Stated government no longer uses Kaspersky. I'm hoping that this thread does not get hammered with comments about Russia and such..

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  • Bill_Satellite's avatar
    Bill_Satellite
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    Aug 20, 2017
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    I loaded it today and I am now trying to get myselfna working computer again. This sucks and I will likely have to format and start again.
  • mr__ed's avatar
    mr__ed
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    Aug 20, 2017
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    wa8yxm wrote:
    The THing I don't trust about Windows Defender is this:
    WHO DO YOU THINK Put the "Vulnerability" in the Operating System to start with?

    I happen to like Science Fiction.. A TV show (VIPER) featured a company "Keys Computer" or some such.. Well turns out they put a "Back door" in every computer so they could take over when they had enough in use. The driver of the VIPER knew this.. but alas could not prove it to a court's satisfaction. Keys knew he knew and thus was the on-going conflict in the show.

    I Actually don't like those "Mortal Enemy" things all that much but the rest of the show was entainering.. If you like fiction..


    Doesn't matter to me. I'll keep using WD until it proves to be a problem. I'm well backed up and have already reinstalled the OS on a few occasions when my experimentations caused an issue. I understand the fall update will offer further improvements to WD. ;)
  • wa8yxm's avatar
    wa8yxm
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    Aug 20, 2017
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    The THing I don't trust about Windows Defender is this:
    WHO DO YOU THINK Put the "Vulnerability" in the Operating System to start with?

    I happen to like Science Fiction.. A TV show (VIPER) featured a company "Keys Computer" or some such.. Well turns out they put a "Back door" in every computer so they could take over when they had enough in use. The driver of the VIPER knew this.. but alas could not prove it to a court's satisfaction. Keys knew he knew and thus was the on-going conflict in the show.

    I Actually don't like those "Mortal Enemy" things all that much but the rest of the show was entainering.. If you like fiction..
  • mr__ed's avatar
    mr__ed
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    Aug 19, 2017
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    I ran Norton security for years, and it did the job OK, but now I'm using Windows Defender and so far there hasn't been a problem. Besides, it's free as it comes with Windows 10 automatically.
  • wa8yxm's avatar
    wa8yxm
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    darsben1 wrote:
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    At least with MS, McAfee, Norton it was probably FBI or CIA.
    So choose who is spying on you


    Back when the very first virus programs and thus the very first ANTI-Virus programs came out I felt that the companies SELLING the programs.. Well I suspected they were responsible for some of the viruses as well.

    I have since met someone a bit higher up the Information Technology food chain than I am (I Whole lot higher in fact)

    He confirmed WHICH company was doing it and where the college professor they hired to write the virus programs lived.

    Now. the OTHER big name back then. Well he claims that HE (Norton) Would NEVER do such a thing.

    So when I say McCaffee is a Criminal corporation. NOW you know the basis. has nothign to do wiht the charges against the man himself.
  • SidecarFlip's avatar
    SidecarFlip
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    darsben1 wrote:
    No thank you to the free antivirus programs. You do not know what entity has built a back door into your computer into the program.
    At least with MS, McAfee, Norton it was probably FBI or CIA.
    So choose who is spying on you


    +1

    In my 66 years I've learned that if it's free, it usually cost you down the road.
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    Trackrig wrote:
    Here was an interesting situation.

    About 18 months ago I bought a new high end Dell desktop while I could still get Windows 7. It came with a free one year subscription of Kaspersky. I had several problems with it so I called their 800# for help. The tech worked with it for a while and then said that if he was me and he'd dump Kaspersky and go find something else.

    That one took me by surprise. I messed with Kaspersky for another week and then dumped it and then paid to renew the software I'd been using for years.

    Bill


    And you thought customer service was dead
  • Trackrig's avatar
    Trackrig
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    Aug 19, 2017
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    Here was an interesting situation.

    About 18 months ago I bought a new high end Dell desktop while I could still get Windows 7. It came with a free one year subscription of Kaspersky. I had several problems with it so I called their 800# for help. The tech worked with it for a while and then said that if he was me and he'd dump Kaspersky and go find something else.

    That one took me by surprise. I messed with Kaspersky for another week and then dumped it and then paid to renew the software I'd been using for years.

    Bill
  • darsben1's avatar
    darsben1
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    No thank you to the free antivirus programs. You do not know what entity has built a back door into your computer into the program.
    At least with MS, McAfee, Norton it was probably FBI or CIA.
    So choose who is spying on you
  • Dutch_12078's avatar
    Dutch_12078
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    Aug 19, 2017
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    It's interesting that Kaspersky scored identically to Microsoft in the AV-Comparitives.org Real World tests for July except in the false positives category where it did better with zero to Microsoft's 9. I've been running the free version of Avast for quite awhile, and see no reason to change. Avast bettered both Kaspersky and Microsoft overall. I know there are other testing sites where the results may differ of course.

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wa8yxm wrote:
The THing I don't trust about Windows Defender is this:
WHO DO YOU THINK Put the \"Vulnerability\" in the Operating System to start with?

I happen to like Science Fiction.. A TV show (VIPER) featured a company \"Keys Computer\" or some such.. Well turns out they put a \"Back door\" in every computer so they could take over when they had enough in use. The driver of the VIPER knew this.. but alas could not prove it to a court's satisfaction. Keys knew he knew and thus was the on-going conflict in the show.

I Actually don't like those \"Mortal Enemy\" things all that much but the rest of the show was entainering.. If you like fiction..


Doesn't matter to me. I'll keep using WD until it proves to be a problem. I'm well backed up and have already reinstalled the OS on a few occasions when my experimentations caused an issue. I understand the fall update will offer further improvements to WD. ;)","body@stripHtml({\"removeProcessingText\":false,\"removeSpoilerMarkup\":false,\"removeTocMarkup\":false,\"truncateLength\":200})@stringLength":"203","kudosSumWeight":0,"repliesCount":0,"postTime":"2017-08-20T14:20:03.000-07:00","lastPublishTime":"2017-08-20T14:20:03.000-07:00","metrics":{"__typename":"MessageMetrics","views":553},"visibilityScope":"PUBLIC","placeholder":false,"originalMessageForPlaceholder":null,"isEscalated":null,"solution":false,"entityType":"FORUM_REPLY","eventPath":"category:RVTalk/community:feyqc97479board:RVMustHaves/message:2715715/message:2715725","replies":{"__typename":"MessageConnection","pageInfo":{"__typename":"PageInfo","hasNextPage":false,"endCursor":null,"hasPreviousPage":false,"startCursor":null},"edges":[]},"customFields":[],"attachments":{"__typename":"AttachmentConnection","edges":[],"pageInfo":{"__typename":"PageInfo","hasNextPage":false,"endCursor":null,"hasPreviousPage":false,"startCursor":null}},"readOnly":false,"editFrozen":false,"body@stringLength":"978","rawBody":"
wa8yxm wrote:
The THing I don't trust about Windows Defender is this:
WHO DO YOU THINK Put the \"Vulnerability\" in the Operating System to start with?

I happen to like Science Fiction.. A TV show (VIPER) featured a company \"Keys Computer\" or some such.. Well turns out they put a \"Back door\" in every computer so they could take over when they had enough in use. The driver of the VIPER knew this.. but alas could not prove it to a court's satisfaction. Keys knew he knew and thus was the on-going conflict in the show.

I Actually don't like those \"Mortal Enemy\" things all that much but the rest of the show was entainering.. If you like fiction..


Doesn't matter to me. I'll keep using WD until it proves to be a problem. I'm well backed up and have already reinstalled the OS on a few occasions when my experimentations caused an issue. I understand the fall update will offer further improvements to WD. ;)","images":{"__typename":"AssociatedImageConnection","edges":[],"totalCount":0,"pageInfo":{"__typename":"PageInfo","hasNextPage":false,"endCursor":null,"hasPreviousPage":false,"startCursor":null}},"timeToRead":1,"currentRevision":{"__ref":"Revision:revision:2715725_1"},"latestVersion":null,"messagePolicies":{"__typename":"MessagePolicies","canModerateSpamMessage":{"__typename":"PolicyResult","failureReason":{"__typename":"FailureReason","message":"error.lithium.policies.feature.moderation_spam.action.moderate_entity.allowed.accessDenied","key":"error.lithium.policies.feature.moderation_spam.action.moderate_entity.allowed.accessDenied","args":[]}}}},"Rank:rank:40":{"__typename":"Rank","id":"rank:40","position":31,"name":"Explorer III","color":"333333","icon":null,"rankStyle":"TEXT"},"User:user:2884":{"__typename":"User","id":"user:2884","uid":2884,"login":"wa8yxm","biography":null,"registrationData":{"__typename":"RegistrationData","status":null,"registrationTime":"2006-07-04T17:54:30.000-07:00"},"deleted":false,"email":"","avatar":{"__typename":"UserAvatar","url":"https://community.goodsam.com/t5/s/feyqc97479/m_assets/avatars/default/avatar-6.svg?time=1737155183000"},"rank":{"__ref":"Rank:rank:40"},"entityType":"USER","eventPath":"community:feyqc97479/user:2884"},"ModerationData:moderation_data:2715724":{"__typename":"ModerationData","id":"moderation_data:2715724","status":"APPROVED","rejectReason":null,"isReportedAbuse":false,"rejectUser":null,"rejectTime":null,"rejectActorType":null},"ForumReplyMessage:message:2715724":{"__typename":"ForumReplyMessage","author":{"__ref":"User:user:2884"},"id":"message:2715724","revisionNum":1,"uid":2715724,"depth":1,"hasGivenKudo":false,"subscribed":false,"board":{"__ref":"Forum:board:RVMustHaves"},"parent":{"__ref":"ForumTopicMessage:message:2715715"},"conversation":{"__ref":"Conversation:conversation:2715715"},"subject":"Re: Kaspersky Anti-Virus FREE Edition","moderationData":{"__ref":"ModerationData:moderation_data:2715724"},"body":"The THing I don't trust about Windows Defender is this:
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darsben1 wrote:
\\
At least with MS, McAfee, Norton it was probably FBI or CIA.
So choose who is spying on you


Back when the very first virus programs and thus the very first ANTI-Virus programs came out I felt that the companies SELLING the programs.. Well I suspected they were responsible for some of the viruses as well.

I have since met someone a bit higher up the Information Technology food chain than I am (I Whole lot higher in fact)

He confirmed WHICH company was doing it and where the college professor they hired to write the virus programs lived.

Now. the OTHER big name back then. Well he claims that HE (Norton) Would NEVER do such a thing.

So when I say McCaffee is a Criminal corporation. NOW you know the basis. has nothign to do wiht the charges against the man himself.","body@stripHtml({\"removeProcessingText\":false,\"removeSpoilerMarkup\":false,\"removeTocMarkup\":false,\"truncateLength\":200})@stringLength":"203","kudosSumWeight":0,"repliesCount":0,"postTime":"2017-08-19T15:53:43.000-07:00","lastPublishTime":"2017-08-19T15:53:43.000-07:00","metrics":{"__typename":"MessageMetrics","views":179},"visibilityScope":"PUBLIC","placeholder":false,"originalMessageForPlaceholder":null,"isEscalated":null,"solution":false,"entityType":"FORUM_REPLY","eventPath":"category:RVTalk/community:feyqc97479board:RVMustHaves/message:2715715/message:2715722","replies":{"__typename":"MessageConnection","pageInfo":{"__typename":"PageInfo","hasNextPage":false,"endCursor":null,"hasPreviousPage":false,"startCursor":null},"edges":[]},"customFields":[],"attachments":{"__typename":"AttachmentConnection","edges":[],"pageInfo":{"__typename":"PageInfo","hasNextPage":false,"endCursor":null,"hasPreviousPage":false,"startCursor":null}},"readOnly":false,"editFrozen":false,"body@stringLength":"885","rawBody":"
darsben1 wrote:
\\
At least with MS, McAfee, Norton it was probably FBI or CIA.
So choose who is spying on you


Back when the very first virus programs and thus the very first ANTI-Virus programs came out I felt that the companies SELLING the programs.. Well I suspected they were responsible for some of the viruses as well.

I have since met someone a bit higher up the Information Technology food chain than I am (I Whole lot higher in fact)

He confirmed WHICH company was doing it and where the college professor they hired to write the virus programs lived.

Now. the OTHER big name back then. Well he claims that HE (Norton) Would NEVER do such a thing.

So when I say McCaffee is a Criminal corporation. NOW you know the basis. has nothign to do wiht the charges against the man himself.","images":{"__typename":"AssociatedImageConnection","edges":[],"totalCount":0,"pageInfo":{"__typename":"PageInfo","hasNextPage":false,"endCursor":null,"hasPreviousPage":false,"startCursor":null}},"timeToRead":1,"currentRevision":{"__ref":"Revision:revision:2715722_1"},"latestVersion":null,"messagePolicies":{"__typename":"MessagePolicies","canModerateSpamMessage":{"__typename":"PolicyResult","failureReason":{"__typename":"FailureReason","message":"error.lithium.policies.feature.moderation_spam.action.moderate_entity.allowed.accessDenied","key":"error.lithium.policies.feature.moderation_spam.action.moderate_entity.allowed.accessDenied","args":[]}}}},"User:user:130324":{"__typename":"User","id":"user:130324","uid":130324,"login":"SidecarFlip","biography":null,"registrationData":{"__typename":"RegistrationData","status":null,"registrationTime":"2016-10-09T02:27:30.000-07:00"},"deleted":false,"email":"","avatar":{"__typename":"UserAvatar","url":"https://community.goodsam.com/t5/s/feyqc97479/m_assets/avatars/default/avatar-4.svg?time=1737155183000"},"rank":{"__ref":"Rank:rank:40"},"entityType":"USER","eventPath":"community:feyqc97479/user:130324"},"ModerationData:moderation_data:2715721":{"__typename":"ModerationData","id":"moderation_data:2715721","status":"APPROVED","rejectReason":null,"isReportedAbuse":false,"rejectUser":null,"rejectTime":null,"rejectActorType":null},"ForumReplyMessage:message:2715721":{"__typename":"ForumReplyMessage","author":{"__ref":"User:user:130324"},"id":"message:2715721","revisionNum":1,"uid":2715721,"depth":1,"hasGivenKudo":false,"subscribed":false,"board":{"__ref":"Forum:board:RVMustHaves"},"parent":{"__ref":"ForumTopicMessage:message:2715715"},"conversation":{"__ref":"Conversation:conversation:2715715"},"subject":"Re: Kaspersky Anti-Virus FREE Edition","moderationData":{"__ref":"ModerationData:moderation_data:2715721"},"body":"
darsben1 wrote:
No thank you to the free antivirus programs. You do not know what entity has built a back door into your computer into the program.
At least with MS, McAfee, Norton it was probably FBI or CIA.
So choose who is spying on you


+1

In my 66 years I've learned that if it's free, it usually cost you down the road.","body@stripHtml({\"removeProcessingText\":false,\"removeSpoilerMarkup\":false,\"removeTocMarkup\":false,\"truncateLength\":200})@stringLength":"203","kudosSumWeight":0,"repliesCount":0,"postTime":"2017-08-19T11:43:51.000-07:00","lastPublishTime":"2017-08-19T11:43:51.000-07:00","metrics":{"__typename":"MessageMetrics","views":150},"visibilityScope":"PUBLIC","placeholder":false,"originalMessageForPlaceholder":null,"isEscalated":null,"solution":false,"entityType":"FORUM_REPLY","eventPath":"category:RVTalk/community:feyqc97479board:RVMustHaves/message:2715715/message:2715721","replies":{"__typename":"MessageConnection","pageInfo":{"__typename":"PageInfo","hasNextPage":false,"endCursor":null,"hasPreviousPage":false,"startCursor":null},"edges":[]},"attachments":{"__typename":"AttachmentConnection","edges":[],"pageInfo":{"__typename":"PageInfo","hasNextPage":false,"endCursor":null,"hasPreviousPage":false,"startCursor":null}},"customFields":[],"readOnly":false,"editFrozen":false,"body@stringLength":"387","rawBody":"
darsben1 wrote:
No thank you to the free antivirus programs. You do not know what entity has built a back door into your computer into the program.
At least with MS, McAfee, Norton it was probably FBI or CIA.
So choose who is spying on you


+1

In my 66 years I've learned that if it's free, it usually cost you down the road.","images":{"__typename":"AssociatedImageConnection","edges":[],"totalCount":0,"pageInfo":{"__typename":"PageInfo","hasNextPage":false,"endCursor":null,"hasPreviousPage":false,"startCursor":null}},"timeToRead":1,"currentRevision":{"__ref":"Revision:revision:2715721_1"},"latestVersion":null,"messagePolicies":{"__typename":"MessagePolicies","canModerateSpamMessage":{"__typename":"PolicyResult","failureReason":{"__typename":"FailureReason","message":"error.lithium.policies.feature.moderation_spam.action.moderate_entity.allowed.accessDenied","key":"error.lithium.policies.feature.moderation_spam.action.moderate_entity.allowed.accessDenied","args":[]}}}},"User:user:165491":{"__typename":"User","id":"user:165491","uid":165491,"login":"darsben1","biography":null,"registrationData":{"__typename":"RegistrationData","status":null,"registrationTime":"2016-05-29T12:59:16.000-07:00"},"deleted":false,"email":"","avatar":{"__typename":"UserAvatar","url":"https://community.goodsam.com/t5/s/feyqc97479/m_assets/avatars/default/avatar-3.svg?time=1737155183000"},"rank":{"__ref":"Rank:rank:42"},"entityType":"USER","eventPath":"community:feyqc97479/user:165491"},"ModerationData:moderation_data:2715720":{"__typename":"ModerationData","id":"moderation_data:2715720","status":"APPROVED","rejectReason":null,"isReportedAbuse":false,"rejectUser":null,"rejectTime":null,"rejectActorType":null},"ForumReplyMessage:message:2715720":{"__typename":"ForumReplyMessage","author":{"__ref":"User:user:165491"},"id":"message:2715720","revisionNum":1,"uid":2715720,"depth":1,"hasGivenKudo":false,"subscribed":false,"board":{"__ref":"Forum:board:RVMustHaves"},"parent":{"__ref":"ForumTopicMessage:message:2715715"},"conversation":{"__ref":"Conversation:conversation:2715715"},"subject":"Re: Kaspersky Anti-Virus FREE Edition","moderationData":{"__ref":"ModerationData:moderation_data:2715720"},"body":"
Trackrig wrote:
Here was an interesting situation.

About 18 months ago I bought a new high end Dell desktop while I could still get Windows 7. It came with a free one year subscription of Kaspersky. I had several problems with it so I called their 800# for help. The tech worked with it for a while and then said that if he was me and he'd dump Kaspersky and go find something else.

That one took me by surprise. I messed with Kaspersky for another week and then dumped it and then paid to renew the software I'd been using for years.

Bill


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Trackrig wrote:
Here was an interesting situation.

About 18 months ago I bought a new high end Dell desktop while I could still get Windows 7. It came with a free one year subscription of Kaspersky. I had several problems with it so I called their 800# for help. The tech worked with it for a while and then said that if he was me and he'd dump Kaspersky and go find something else.

That one took me by surprise. I messed with Kaspersky for another week and then dumped it and then paid to renew the software I'd been using for years.

Bill


And you thought customer service was dead","images":{"__typename":"AssociatedImageConnection","edges":[],"totalCount":0,"pageInfo":{"__typename":"PageInfo","hasNextPage":false,"endCursor":null,"hasPreviousPage":false,"startCursor":null}},"timeToRead":1,"currentRevision":{"__ref":"Revision:revision:2715720_1"},"latestVersion":null,"messagePolicies":{"__typename":"MessagePolicies","canModerateSpamMessage":{"__typename":"PolicyResult","failureReason":{"__typename":"FailureReason","message":"error.lithium.policies.feature.moderation_spam.action.moderate_entity.allowed.accessDenied","key":"error.lithium.policies.feature.moderation_spam.action.moderate_entity.allowed.accessDenied","args":[]}}}},"User:user:329403":{"__typename":"User","id":"user:329403","uid":329403,"login":"Trackrig","biography":null,"registrationData":{"__typename":"RegistrationData","status":null,"registrationTime":"2011-05-15T12:45:34.000-07:00"},"deleted":false,"email":"","avatar":{"__typename":"UserAvatar","url":"https://community.goodsam.com/t5/s/feyqc97479/m_assets/avatars/default/avatar-8.svg?time=1737155183000"},"rank":{"__ref":"Rank:rank:41"},"entityType":"USER","eventPath":"community:feyqc97479/user:329403"},"ModerationData:moderation_data:2715719":{"__typename":"ModerationData","id":"moderation_data:2715719","status":"APPROVED","rejectReason":null,"isReportedAbuse":false,"rejectUser":null,"rejectTime":null,"rejectActorType":null},"ForumReplyMessage:message:2715719":{"__typename":"ForumReplyMessage","author":{"__ref":"User:user:329403"},"id":"message:2715719","revisionNum":1,"uid":2715719,"depth":1,"hasGivenKudo":false,"subscribed":false,"board":{"__ref":"Forum:board:RVMustHaves"},"parent":{"__ref":"ForumTopicMessage:message:2715715"},"conversation":{"__ref":"Conversation:conversation:2715715"},"subject":"Re: Kaspersky Anti-Virus FREE Edition","moderationData":{"__ref":"ModerationData:moderation_data:2715719"},"body":"Here was an interesting situation.

About 18 months ago I bought a new high end Dell desktop while I could still get Windows 7. It came with a free one year subscription of Kaspersky. I had several problems with it so I called their 800# for help. The tech worked with it for a while and then said that if he was me and he'd dump Kaspersky and go find something else.

That one took me by surprise. I messed with Kaspersky for another week and then dumped it and then paid to renew the software I'd been using for years.

Bill","body@stripHtml({\"removeProcessingText\":false,\"removeSpoilerMarkup\":false,\"removeTocMarkup\":false,\"truncateLength\":200})@stringLength":"203","kudosSumWeight":0,"repliesCount":0,"postTime":"2017-08-19T10:30:28.000-07:00","lastPublishTime":"2017-08-19T10:30:28.000-07:00","metrics":{"__typename":"MessageMetrics","views":150},"visibilityScope":"PUBLIC","placeholder":false,"originalMessageForPlaceholder":null,"isEscalated":null,"solution":false,"entityType":"FORUM_REPLY","eventPath":"category:RVTalk/community:feyqc97479board:RVMustHaves/message:2715715/message:2715719","replies":{"__typename":"MessageConnection","pageInfo":{"__typename":"PageInfo","hasNextPage":false,"endCursor":null,"hasPreviousPage":false,"startCursor":null},"edges":[]},"attachments":{"__typename":"AttachmentConnection","edges":[],"pageInfo":{"__typename":"PageInfo","hasNextPage":false,"endCursor":null,"hasPreviousPage":false,"startCursor":null}},"customFields":[],"readOnly":false,"editFrozen":false,"body@stringLength":"560","rawBody":"Here was an interesting situation.

About 18 months ago I bought a new high end Dell desktop while I could still get Windows 7. It came with a free one year subscription of Kaspersky. I had several problems with it so I called their 800# for help. The tech worked with it for a while and then said that if he was me and he'd dump Kaspersky and go find something else.

That one took me by surprise. I messed with Kaspersky for another week and then dumped it and then paid to renew the software I'd been using for years.

Bill","images":{"__typename":"AssociatedImageConnection","edges":[],"totalCount":0,"pageInfo":{"__typename":"PageInfo","hasNextPage":false,"endCursor":null,"hasPreviousPage":false,"startCursor":null}},"timeToRead":1,"currentRevision":{"__ref":"Revision:revision:2715719_1"},"latestVersion":null,"messagePolicies":{"__typename":"MessagePolicies","canModerateSpamMessage":{"__typename":"PolicyResult","failureReason":{"__typename":"FailureReason","message":"error.lithium.policies.feature.moderation_spam.action.moderate_entity.allowed.accessDenied","key":"error.lithium.policies.feature.moderation_spam.action.moderate_entity.allowed.accessDenied","args":[]}}}},"ModerationData:moderation_data:2715718":{"__typename":"ModerationData","id":"moderation_data:2715718","status":"APPROVED","rejectReason":null,"isReportedAbuse":false,"rejectUser":null,"rejectTime":null,"rejectActorType":null},"ForumReplyMessage:message:2715718":{"__typename":"ForumReplyMessage","author":{"__ref":"User:user:165491"},"id":"message:2715718","revisionNum":1,"uid":2715718,"depth":1,"hasGivenKudo":false,"subscribed":false,"board":{"__ref":"Forum:board:RVMustHaves"},"parent":{"__ref":"ForumTopicMessage:message:2715715"},"conversation":{"__ref":"Conversation:conversation:2715715"},"subject":"Re: Kaspersky Anti-Virus FREE Edition","moderationData":{"__ref":"ModerationData:moderation_data:2715718"},"body":"No thank you to the free antivirus programs. You do not know what entity has built a back door into your computer into the program.
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