New Iphone --- Apple or Other?

Naio wrote:

bwanshoom wrote:

Naio wrote:
With Android, a new battery costs 99 cents including shipping, and you just pop off the cover and stick it in. For boondocking, you can carry spare batteries if you want to -- or spend another 99 cents for a car charger.

Replaceable batteries are not an Android feature. Some phones that run Android support replaceable batteries and some do not. Even within manufacturers they have some that do and some that don't. The recent trend is away from replaceable batteries among Android handset manufacturers.

I have only once seen a late-model android phone where you could not replace the battery. The newest have gone back to replaceable. Probably due to user demand!

I strongly disagree. Here are the current and next to current flagships models of several manufacturers, all with non-removable batteries. In fact, only LG seems to have removable batteries.

Samsung Galaxy S6
Samsung Note 5
Motorola Droid MAXX 2
Motorola Droid Turbo 2
Motorola X Play
HTC One M9
HTC One M8
Sony XPeria Z4
Sony XPeria Z5

My experience with Android phones(had 2 of them with IceCreamSandwich and Jellybean) was the OS's change to the point of making the phones obsolete sooner.
iPhones seem to have a longer life by being able to update to the latest OS.
My fam has/had a iPhone4, 2-iphone5's, 2-iPad mini's (2ndGen), a 3rd Gen iPad, and a 6yr old 3rd Gen iTouch. All share the same/similar OS making it seamless to switch between devices. The iTouch was done at ver5.1 but still works great. All are trouble free which I greatly appreciate.

bwanshoom wrote:

Naio wrote:

bwanshoom wrote:

Naio wrote:
With Android, a new battery costs 99 cents including shipping, and you just pop off the cover and stick it in. For boondocking, you can carry spare batteries if you want to -- or spend another 99 cents for a car charger.

Replaceable batteries are not an Android feature. Some phones that run Android support replaceable batteries and some do not. Even within manufacturers they have some that do and some that don't. The recent trend is away from replaceable batteries among Android handset manufacturers.

I have only once seen a late-model android phone where you could not replace the battery. The newest have gone back to replaceable. Probably due to user demand!

I strongly disagree. Here are the current and next to current flagships models of several manufacturers, all with non-removable batteries. In fact, only LG seems to have removable batteries.

Samsung Galaxy S6
Samsung Note 5
Motorola Droid MAXX 2
Motorola Droid Turbo 2
Motorola X Play
HTC One M9
HTC One M8
Sony XPeria Z4
Sony XPeria Z5

Wow, that's too bad! When I was shopping this summer, the flagships were not like that.

New IPhone --- Apple or Other?

I thought only Apple had the iPhone?

Sprink-Fitter wrote:

New IPhone --- Apple or Other?

I thought only Apple had the iPhone?

They do. I think he meant "New phone - Apple or Other", maybe using iPhone as a generic term for a smartphone.

Naio wrote:

EV2 wrote:

Naio wrote:
Android is the gold standard. iPhones are an overpriced knock-off. iPhones also spy on the users in a way that I find extremely creepy.

What world do you live in? How does the originator become a knock off of something that was copied from the original? Congratulations on providing the most misinformation possible in such a concise post.

IPhone is not the originator, they are the copycats.

They managed to bamboozle a lot of people into thinking that, though! I remember when the first iphone came out. Apple presented it as something revolutionary. My friends were surprised when I showed them my phone, which I'd had for two years before iphone debuted. My phone let me surf the web, send emails, store and play all my music, record videos, etc. Just like the supposedly 'new' apple imitation.

It was a huge marketing scam, and depressingly successful. People are easily fooled :(.

You are big on claims and short on specifics. How about naming this phone of you had (have). Is the iPhone a knockoff of it, or some other phone. (I assume you are using a generally understood meaning of "knockoff.")

No one has said that iPhone was the first "smart phone." Arguably, that distinction belongs to IBM's Simon Personal Communicator from 1992. Since then, there has been many innovations and improvements. Although a few models were consumer oriented, for the most part smart phones were enterprise devices.

In 2007, the iPhone changed the landscape, both in form factor and function. Hard for me to see how it is a "knockoff." So, I'm hoping you will tell us what it is a knockoff of.

iPhones also spy on the users in a way that I find extremely creepy. Again, short of specifics. How about telling us how it spies in a way that is creepy, as opposed to the way other devices spy on us.

Thanks,
Tom

You should definitely buy an iPhone from a different manufacturer

pulsar wrote:

Naio wrote:

EV2 wrote:

Naio wrote:
Android is the gold standard. iPhones are an overpriced knock-off. iPhones also spy on the users in a way that I find extremely creepy.

What world do you live in? How does the originator become a knock off of something that was copied from the original? Congratulations on providing the most misinformation possible in such a concise post.

IPhone is not the originator, they are the copycats.

They managed to bamboozle a lot of people into thinking that, though! I remember when the first iphone came out. Apple presented it as something revolutionary. My friends were surprised when I showed them my phone, which I'd had for two years before iphone debuted. My phone let me surf the web, send emails, store and play all my music, record videos, etc. Just like the supposedly 'new' apple imitation.

It was a huge marketing scam, and depressingly successful. People are easily fooled :(.

You are big on claims and short on specifics. How about naming this phone of you had (have). Is the iPhone a knockoff of it, or some other phone. (I assume you are using a generally understood meaning of "knockoff.")

No one has said that iPhone was the first "smart phone." Arguably, that distinction belongs to IBM's Simon Personal Communicator from 1992. Since then, there has been many innovations and improvements. Although a few models were consumer oriented, for the most part smart phones were enterprise devices.

In 2007, the iPhone changed the landscape, both in form factor and function. Hard for me to see how it is a "knockoff." So, I'm hoping you will tell us what it is a knockoff of.

iPhones also spy on the users in a way that I find extremely creepy. Again, short of specifics. How about telling us how it spies in a way that is creepy, as opposed to the way other devices spy on us.

Thanks,
Tom

I had a blackberry that did some of the same things as the iPhone....well before the iPhone iirc....I also had a Treo touch screen smart phone.... Played MP3, recorded videos, text, etc... And it was pure garbage...both of them.

Apple rarely is first to market.... But when they do it it's generally user friendly and dang near perfect.

I get cracked up at the back button argument... My son has an S4 Samsung and I find the back button distracting. My iOS devices have navigation buttons on screen when I need them for apps where I am actually navigating. When I am done with the app I just lock the screen or hit the home button if I want to navigate back to the main screen. Multi tasking is a quick double tap and I am presented with my open apps to choose from.

I like the Apple walled garden... Keeps the Malware down and things generally running smoothly. People love to talk about the walled garden but in all my years on iOS I have never had a single problem finding an app to solve a problem or do a job on my device that I want.

My android devices generally worked well, especially with native apps... But downloading from the play store you always have to wonder... Will this app play nice with my phone... Most did... But not all.

Oh, and the iOS updates are really nice. I'm on an iPad Mini 1 and it's running the latest OS... Running very well. But is a bit slow at times. No plans on replacing it yet.

My iPhone 5 still works great... I replaced the battery earlier this year myself.... Less than $10.00 off eBay. Super easy devices to work on. Recently re-cased an Apple iPad 2 for a friend...not hard just takes time. My sons S4 feels like I am working on a toy... A plastic cheap toy. Once you get inside a device you can really see what they are made of... Apple devices are beautiful designs both inside and out. Very high quality.

Never have broke a screen on my iOS devices... As a matter of fact, not any of my friends or family that have broke screens had a screen just randomly break... Not saying it doesn't happen...just not in my experience.

I am calling out the argument that iOS isn't for power users. Androids can be great phones.... No doubt! Some are very beautiful and work great, but just because someone chooses Android doesn't make them a power user and just because someone chooses Apple doesn't mean that they are not a power user. There are many of us iOS users who appreciate the software not getting in the way of getting the task at hand done. Adding a widget to the home screen doesn't make someone a power user.

In the end, there are options for the smart phone/mobile device user. Android, iOS, Blackberry, Windows.... Lots of choices... And that is a great thing.

Thanks!

Jeremiah

Below is the best answer yet.

"Apple rarely is first to market.... But when they do it it's generally user friendly and dang near perfect."

joebedford wrote:
You should definitely buy an iPhone from a different manufacturer

Foxconn builds the iPhone in China.
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