Best generator

Not trying to take the thread off track, but just a noise comparison.

I read that when you have reached your sound db max, it only takes 1 additional db to be way too much. An example of torture, using sound, if a siren is going at 140 db and you are forced to stay near, just moving to 141 db will be a torture you cannot withstand.

Jerry

Skibane wrote:


When an all-new Champion or Predator with the latest doo-dads costs only 1/5th as much as a stodgy old Honda, you can afford to upgrade when something new comes along.

First of all, we're talking generators here, not Iphones...."something new"? ROFLMAO. It's a tool, if it starts and puts out juice like it should, how much more totally awesome can a new model be? That was the funniest justification for buying Chinesium I've heard in a while.

And your math is horrible. The super ching chong cheapo generators are just under 1/2 of what a Honda/Yami cost. And the better "quality" ones like Champion are 1/2 or little over 1/2 the cost. 20% vs 50% is mucho different.

Noone is stopping anyone from buying a Firman, Wen, Westinghouse, wannabeYamaha, Predator, Champion or any other.

Some of guys are too funny!

Funny story, one of my crews just found a Westinghouse, I think, or maybe it was the "Onan" model 2kw inverter genny in one of our conexes. Of course it wouldn't start, because it probably sat full of cheap gas since last year or god knows when.
Guys sent me a pic of it. Looks like new.
(Probably someone needed another genny one night at work at 8pm and ran to Costco and bought one.)
I told the supt hey find a small engine shop to get it running. Guy said he called 3 or 4 places in Spokane and all of them said, don't bother bringing it in, we don't work on those.

2112 wrote:
I do not understand why someone would care how others spend their money.

Perhaps because the title of the thread is "Best Generator"? Just a guess....

valhalla360 wrote:

Tvov wrote:

valhalla360 wrote:

Tvov wrote:
Remember that a small change in "DB level" or noise level is actually big sound-wise - it sounds a lot louder.

It's actually the opposite. dB is a measure of power but to hear a difference in noise level is not linear.

I am not a sound engineer or anything like that. In my experience, just a one or two number change in "DB level" is very much noticeable.

I don't know the science behind, just what I've heard... lol!

You have sensitive ears then. Generally, people can't detect a 1dB change.

Plus simply moving the generator a few feet further away can lower the dB by a few points.

actualy a 1db is noticable but you need something to compare it to, and it depends on the range it is at. because it is a logrythmitic scale it works out that every 3db is twice as loud, so 50db is twice as loud as 47db and 47 is twice as loud as 44 and so on, but not exactly. in reality it is all compared from 0db and on a 10 fold scale, so 10 db is 10 times louder than 0db and 20db is 100 times louder than 0db and 30 db is 1000 times louder than 0db and so on. I find even a very quiet 48db generator drives me nuts after a bit if I dont have music or somthing going to mask the sound, but that is getting better with the more hearing I lose evey year haha. when I first started camping I bought a 58 db generator not knowing better... used it once and i wont subject anyone to that again haha

Steve

dieseltruckdriver wrote:
I do not understand the thinking of people that want to cheap out on power for the RV that they have paid tens of thousands for.

I do not understand why someone would care how others spend their money.

I bought my first Champion 120V 3500W in 2008 right after hurricane Ike. I had to buy what was available locally right then. Not much shopping around and grabbed what was left on the shelf. 13 yrs later and It still works as it did the day I bought it.

I stumbled onto a sale on a Champion 120/240V 3500W at HD in 2011. Heck, I can use that 240V 3500W to run my water well when we lose power at the house. It's a nice upgrade for less $ than what I paid for the 120V model. I walked in HD to buy nails and walked out with a $300 generator. This one is my workhorse. It powers my welder, recharges the battery powered golf cart when the kids leave it down the road with a dead battery. I can't say how many hours it has on it. It ran 80 hrs non-stop during our Texas freeze last winter. I didn't even turn it off to refuel. 10 yrs later and It still works as it did the day I bought it.

I have been so pleased with Champion I did not hesitate to buy their 3400W inverter model a few yrs ago to power the RV AC while Wallydocking. Someone here pointed out this model was on sale and I jumped on it. I've had battery issues with this one but other than that, so far so good.

And I own all that for the price of a single Honda EU2000i.

dieseltruckdriver wrote:
I do not understand the thinking of people that want to cheap out on power for the RV that they have paid tens of thousands for.

Our core group of camping friends is a good experiment. Us and a good friend bought EU2000I Honda generators, and two others bought Champions, then different Champions. Then they bought Predators. They have spent more total dollars on generators than we have on our Hondas. Ours have been trouble free, and still don't need replacing.

When an all-new Champion or Predator with the latest doo-dads costs only 1/5th as much as a stodgy old Honda, you can afford to upgrade when something new comes along.

Speaking of stodgy - where are Honda's dual-fuel models? That feature has been commonplace for so long among the Chinese brands that some manufacturers have now moved on to tri-fuel models.

Why does Honda make you pay $5K for a 260 pound 7KW behemoth in order to get remote start/stop?

The fact is, some folks buy Chinese generators because they can't get anything comparable from Honda.

I have had very good service from my small Firman inverter gen I bought on sale at Costco. Has parallel cables, usb port, RV port, etc. Nice and quiet in economy mode for 9 hours per gallon. Use it for fishing/camping trips to SP, BLM and NF.

I do not understand the thinking of people that want to cheap out on power for the RV that they have paid tens of thousands for.

Our core group of camping friends is a good experiment. Us and a good friend bought EU2000I Honda generators, and two others bought Champions, then different Champions. Then they bought Predators. They have spent more total dollars on generators than we have on our Hondas. Ours have been trouble free, and still don't need replacing.

To be fair, I have enough solar now that my generator use is much reduced from the previous 12 years. Last year I only used the Hondas one weekend.

Lots of folks at the dirtbike races we attend have the Predator 3500. They run them the entire weekend for A/C. Seem to be holding up.

Just for some perspective:

Sound studies tell us time and again that a 3dBA increase in sound level is barely noticeable to the human ear. In fact, you have to raise a sound level by 5dBA before most listeners report a noticeable or significant change. Further, it takes a 10dBA increase before the average listener hears “double the sound.”.

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