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Not full of hate at all and you have the freedom in any choice you make but I would caution you that those of the Kia Dealership and RV Dealership are not riding in the van with you. I would be floored if anyone at a Kia dealership knew about towing and how tow limits are a small piece of the overall towing puzzle.

Axles, suspension, transmission, engine, brakes, WIND RESISTANCE (the surface area of the TT), SWAY (wheelbase of vehicle vs. length of trailer) are all examples of that piece of the puzzle. I'm just learning myself.

Towing it up a hill and around town is NOT the issue. Braking the trailer on downgrades with crosswinds and semi-trucks passing you will be!!

Your decision maybe yours to make but it effects the general public. A 30mph crosswind and a sudden lane change (car cuts you off) could spell disaster. The people at the RV and Kia dealership won't care but you should. If you flip your van and trailer you not only endanger your family but others on the same road.

I live in California and have seen a lot of stuff. Most are caused when people push the limits. You are pushing your limit add very little towing experience and you have no safety margin for "life."

I hope you never have a mishap and have many happy years in your TT. Maybe that is all you will experience but with no safety net you could also experience a very different result.

I'm new so get where you are coming from and some of these guys might sound overly harsh but the consequences do require it. I got a serious wake up call to battery charging and through this forum learned the importance of GAWR as well, before I made a bad choices. I appreciate their help and needed it. It saved me a whole lot of grief.

Knowledge is there whether you want it to come in PC (flowers and sunshine) form or not, shouldn't be the determining factor as to whether you look at the common thread in the advice given.

Either way enjoy your travels,

-Janell

Thank you,bpounds,for standing up for me. I have been extremely careful and added the largest transmission cooler,timbron suspension,curt hitch and electric brakes. The Kia dealership that I used even stated that I would be fine with the travel trailer. I am sure that a lot more people would post on the forums if the people that have too much time on their hands would find something better to do than voice their hateful posts.I can't understand why some people are so full of hate.

bpounds wrote:
She did not ask anyone's opinion about weight in this thread. But some of you could not help but coax the info out of her, just so you could jump on the opportunity to criticize. Even going out and searching her post history for ammunition. I swear some of you cannot help yourselves. Should be ashamed, really.

I couldn't disagree more, nothing wrong at all pointing out to a first time, totally inexperienced newbie that they've just been sold a load of goods and now have a trailer that will unquestionably be problematic to tow with her minivan. Sorry, but maybe your profile ID says it all - "senile". Hey, you said it, not me. :W

She did not ask anyone's opinion about weight in this thread. But some of you could not help but coax the info out of her, just so you could jump on the opportunity to criticize. Even going out and searching her post history for ammunition. I swear some of you cannot help yourselves. Should be ashamed, really.

SoundGuy wrote:
Turns out the OP was already cautioned back in Aug of last year in this thread about towing any full height trailer with a minivan. :R She has nevertheless since purchased a new KZ Sportsmen Classic 180BH and IIRC intends to travel with another adult and a dog. Factory dry weight of this trailer is listed at 2623 lbs but the OP hasn't provided the actual stickered weight of this particular trailer to which the weight of a battery and propane would have to be added. Accounting for the weight of passengers and any cargo in the van, including that of weight distribution / sway control, and there won't be much left out of that 3500 lb limit to account for the weight of everything additional loaded into the trailer. :E

The OP seems to not appreciate this isn't just about weight but also the significant effect wind resistance at highway speeds will have on any full height trailer, and in her case will certainly tax her 10+ yr old minivan to it's limits. Despite her belief that her "Kia pulled the trailer like a champ" test towing an empty trailer unfortunately will not have revealed just how stressful towing this travel trailer fully loaded & ready to camp will be on her van. I guess all we can do at this point is wish her luck. :)

I'm sure the salesman told her it would be no problem..:R

Turns out the OP was already cautioned back in Aug of last year in this thread about towing any full height trailer with a minivan. :R She has nevertheless since purchased a new KZ Sportsmen Classic 180BH and IIRC intends to travel with another adult and a dog. Factory dry weight of this trailer is listed at 2623 lbs but the OP hasn't provided the actual stickered weight of this particular trailer to which the weight of a battery and propane would have to be added. Accounting for the weight of passengers and any cargo in the van, including that of weight distribution / sway control, and there won't be much left out of that 3500 lb limit to account for the weight of everything additional loaded into the trailer. :E

The OP seems to not appreciate this isn't just about weight but also the significant effect wind resistance at highway speeds will have on any full height trailer, and in her case will certainly tax her 10+ yr old minivan to it's limits. Despite her belief that her "Kia pulled the trailer like a champ" test towing an empty trailer unfortunately will not have revealed just how stressful towing this travel trailer fully loaded & ready to camp will be on her van. I guess all we can do at this point is wish her luck. :)

SusanDallas wrote:
The travel trailer I purchased weighs 2600 lbs. I did a test tow before purchasing and the Kia pulled the trailer like a champ
The travel trailer that I test towed had a slide and weighed 250lbs more than the one I am purchasing. You couldn't even tell the trailer was back there
When going up hills the rpms never exceeded 2300rpms. The transmission handled great with no straining. The Kia is rated to pull 3500 lbs.

If you read the towing section of the Kia's owners manual, I'll bet there's a frontal area limitation that any TT will exceed.

The travel trailer I purchased weighs 2600 lbs. I did a test tow before purchasing and the Kia pulled the trailer like a champ
The travel trailer that I test towed had a slide and weighed 250lbs more than the one I am purchasing. You couldn't even tell the trailer was back there
When going up hills the rpms never exceeded 2300rpms. The transmission handled great with no straining. The Kia is rated to pull 3500 lbs.

best that Sedona should be towing is a small popup. I towed one for years. never needed auxiliary mirrors.

SusanDallas wrote:
Sorry about leaving off the make and model of my vehicle. It is a 2006 Kia Sedona EX.

bikendan wrote:
Hope you're not planning on towing a conventional TT.:E

Unless this is a particularly tiny TT the OP has ordered I sense an UH OH coming on. :E Mirrors may be the least of the OP's problems. :(