FireFighter Retiring in a couple years
I'm 48yro almost 49 and looking at retirement at the age of 50 being a firefighter for 20 years atm. I drive a 2017 Nissan Titan XD diesel and am looking at a Grand Design travel trailer one specific...
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Time for a little reality check........
2017 Nissan Titan XD Diesel
Published info shows 'Towing capacity: 11,660 to 11,930 lbs
YET info shows 'Payload: 1,612 to 1,699 lbs
AND Gross vehicle weight rating: 8,800 to 8,990 lbs
Payload is the total amount of weight that can be added to truck.....that would be everything in cab, stuff in bags, stuff in seat/door pockets, under the seats, in the bed of truck, the weight hitch AND the WET pin weight of 5th wheel (or tongue weight of a TT)
Both of those Grand Designs show DRY pin weights...not wet pin weight of loaded up Full Time packed/camp ready trailers
The 230RL..dry weight is listed as AVG weight of 1195#---wet pin will be closer to 1800# or more
The 2800BH...dry weight is listed as AVG weight of 575#...wet tongue weight will be closer to 900# or more
With a payload of only 1650# the 5vr model 230RL is too heavy
But the TT model 2800BH might be doable (1650-900 = 750 minus 100 for hitch.....650# left for STUFF in truck)
Course you will probably be at/over trucks GVWR but real concern would be trucks rear axle rating and if at/over it (or trucks tire max load ratings)
With your 2017 Nissan Titan XD Diesel you would be better off forgetting about 5th wheels as the wet pin weights will et up too mch payload and shop for TTs in the 7500 GVWR range.
Towing overloaded is not fun nor safe.
Check your door jamb for your trucks 'cargo carrying capacity' (payload) on tire load Data sticker
Remember published numbers are DRY weights....so look at GVWR and use 12% as bases for wet tongue weight (20% for 5vr wet pin)
Best of luck in your research.
2017 Nissan Titan XD Diesel
Published info shows 'Towing capacity: 11,660 to 11,930 lbs
YET info shows 'Payload: 1,612 to 1,699 lbs
AND Gross vehicle weight rating: 8,800 to 8,990 lbs
Payload is the total amount of weight that can be added to truck.....that would be everything in cab, stuff in bags, stuff in seat/door pockets, under the seats, in the bed of truck, the weight hitch AND the WET pin weight of 5th wheel (or tongue weight of a TT)
Both of those Grand Designs show DRY pin weights...not wet pin weight of loaded up Full Time packed/camp ready trailers
The 230RL..dry weight is listed as AVG weight of 1195#---wet pin will be closer to 1800# or more
The 2800BH...dry weight is listed as AVG weight of 575#...wet tongue weight will be closer to 900# or more
With a payload of only 1650# the 5vr model 230RL is too heavy
But the TT model 2800BH might be doable (1650-900 = 750 minus 100 for hitch.....650# left for STUFF in truck)
Course you will probably be at/over trucks GVWR but real concern would be trucks rear axle rating and if at/over it (or trucks tire max load ratings)
With your 2017 Nissan Titan XD Diesel you would be better off forgetting about 5th wheels as the wet pin weights will et up too mch payload and shop for TTs in the 7500 GVWR range.
Towing overloaded is not fun nor safe.
Check your door jamb for your trucks 'cargo carrying capacity' (payload) on tire load Data sticker
Remember published numbers are DRY weights....so look at GVWR and use 12% as bases for wet tongue weight (20% for 5vr wet pin)
Best of luck in your research.
