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Rickehshay
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Nov 06, 2016

Future Full-Timer!

So, for the past couple years, I've always wanted to live in a trailer. I've never been one for houses or large open spaces. For an example, I watched my grandparents house for a few months while they did some huge trip. Other than the bathroom, I only used one room in the entire house. While I have my own room there, I slept on the floor in the living room. Simple because I didn't care to use more than I needed.

My parents owned a 27' Jayco trailer that ended up being totaled out because of their lack of experience with it and not properly resealing it like you are apparently supposed to. This coupled with a leaking AC caused massive roof damage that would have cost around $6K to replace. Given they rarely used it, we had the insurance total it and take it away for $1K less than paid for. Lesson learned? It was bought second hand and we DID NOT know what we were supposed to look for.

Yes, I'm telling my life story! Don't know if it's to justify my wants, or to justify this massive change to myself. Currently, I do live with my parents. It is incredibly expensive to live in California in our specific location. I'd be lucky to find a place around $1K/month that doesn't have frequent crime committed in the area. As well as the fact that I work 40+ hours a week and go to school. I rarely am home. I live out of one drawer, and my life lives on a laptop and a smart phone. (This is important because internet is a 100% requirement)

So, now that I've gotten my swiss cheese story out of the way. Hello! I'm Ricky/Rick. First post on these forums, I am hoping that I am posting in the proper place, and that it isn't something that already exists. I did some quick skimming but didn't see a "Hey moron, don't post a new thread, just read this indepth guide already put together for you."

I don't want something super small, while I know I have said that I don't need much, I don't want to skimp and go so small that I don't like it or something like that. I have set my eyes on a Jayco 29' trailer. I have checked every RV in the list of googling "Top 10 travel trailers" and Jayco was the ONLY place that seemed to provide better information and images on their site. Compared to the others that half-A'd it and would rather you go to a dealer. I'd prefer to get everything done online first where I have control, and then start going into dealers. That and the fact that the general layout was basically the same.

Okay!! Now, I will respond to anything else asked of me if it is asked of me.

Here are the questions!
1. Is Jayco a good brand for long term living?
Ex; are the repairs/upkeep generally reasonable.

2. I have the following listed for expenses, am I missing anything?; Monthly Finance for RV, Insurance, Phone, Internet, RV Park, Laundry.

3. I want a cat, I'm more of a dog person, but I do want company not in the form of a human because people annoy me. I'm not home enough to provide proper attention to a dog, but since cats are self sufficient, it's preferred. (Park I will stay at is dog friendly, dependent on the breed. Good or bad idea?

4. Is it a good idea to become a Good Sam member? The park I'm staying at offers a discount if using it, but not for long term stays. Just their weekly/daily visits with 10% off. If they had it for their monthly payments, Good Sam would be an obvious yes as it would take 10% off $700, so it'd pay for itself in one month.

5. My insurance would be through Progressive. Yay or Nay? Is there a better provider? I want it as cheap as possible without saying no to the stuff that I really need.

6. I do not want a fifth wheel or anything where I lose my bed. I also have dirt bikes and would like to go to trails and such. Which is why I don't want a Class A/C either. I have looked at Toy Haulers but did not like ANY of the setups offered. Does this require specialized towing packages? Or can I just slap it on a ball with sway bars and go?

7. As I typed this, I came across another trailer I would be okay with. However, it's 34'.

Here are the specs of the 34' trailer...
Unloaded Vehicle Weight - 8600
Dry Hitch Weight - 1275
GVWR - 10950
CCC - 2350

Here are the specs of the 29' trailer...
UVW - 6700
DHW - 770
GVWR - 9500
CCC - 2800

Would a Dodge RAM 1500 be able to tow either of these trailers without breaking much of a sweat? I know there are many types of engines that come in these, but let's assume it's the cheap base models. I do not want diesel. (I know this is normally in the 2500+ series) As I do intend to drive it often and I do have a mechanic background. Unless I was towing it all the time and not in a constant turn off/turn on state, I would cause more harm than good if I owned a diesel. (Cause you know, diesels love heat and would be happy running 24/7, but get sad when you turn them on, drive away almost immediately and then shut them off a few minutes later.)
Let's keep it in the somewhat newer range. It needs to be reliable, it wouldn't be used to tow often. Just for going to places for service. Which would happen every year or something of that tune. Unless someone says it needs to go less than that, or more than that. Once it gets parked, it's not moving much.

Yes, my questions keep going into side comments. Hopefully I'm providing a good read for you. There will be no TL;DR at the bottom of this.

8. Do I want to get this with all the insulation options? Or would I be okay frequently operating my heater & A/C while on a full hookup setup. (30AMP, they do have 50AMP options but I don't see either of my choices being 50 AMPs, unless I added a second A/C which I find stupid.) The option is for an insulated underbelly and roof.

9. What proper cleaning tips should I be taking with my new trailer? Every few weeks go out with a dry cloth on a pole and wipe it down? I don't see my park being okay with me hosing it down and washing it all the time.

10. Would it be more feasible to use my stove in my kitchen? Or to get a small tabletop stove and cook outside? Don't know what the usage for propane would be inside as compared to a camping grill.

11. Should I upgrade the water heater? It's a 6-gallon gas/electric DSI water heater. People say it's better to upgrade to a 10Gal, which is more of a DIY task. I'm not much for long showers, but let's say, would 6Gal be good to handle a 15 minute shower? (I normally take 5-10 minute showers, so doubling to be sure.)

12. Is all the electric lift junk really needed? I don't mind manual stabilizers/tongue. I feel electric would be nice to have if I moved constantly, is it something I could live without and not really care?

I might be asking really opinionated questions, and I apologize about that. I'm trying to get every little tiny detail in my head before I commit to something so expensive and find out down the road that something won't work and I get screwed. So I will focus on the tiniest of details with a fine tooth comb if need be.

Also, while typing this I have found things that I might not have that I thought I had, but it's already typed out, maybe my mistakes aren't really mistakes!

This might pertain more to Jayco:
1. What is the: Sani-ConĀ® Turbo Waste Management System
2. What is the: 5-Way and 8-Way Power Remote?
3. Is this important to change: Fiberglass Sidewalls w/Frameless Windows
4. What is the: Cargo Accessory Receiver


These are the links to the two trailers:
http://www.jayco.com/products/travel-trailers/2017-jay-flight/34rsbs/
http://www.jayco.com/products/travel-trailers/2017-jay-flight/29rks/

Again, I apologize if most of this seems stupid or if a simple google search would answer most my posts. I always feel it better to post my (in my head) unique situations and have tailored responses to them.

19 Replies

  • coolmom42 wrote:
    Remember this is a 15 yr + commitment. If you can't afford to take care of an old sick cat, don't get a young healthy one. And even young healthy cats can develop issues requiring meds, surgery, vet visits. Don't get one if you are gone all the time.


    Isn't this the truth! Our 8 yr old dog was diagnosed last Jan with diabetes mellitus and let me tell you it's really expensive, not just for the usual annual vet visits but the cost of insulin, syringes, prescription dog food ... as in thousands a year. :E As with kids you have to plan for the long term, not just now, so if you can't afford it don't even think about it.
  • 2oldman wrote:
    Fulltiming means being retired and travelling about. If that's not you, what are you doing for income?


    Sorry, Full-Time to me was living in it year round.

    I have a full-time job at a warehouse making $18/hr, as well as a few computer repair jobs that pay around $45/hour, but this is mainly on weekends for 4-5 hours.

    I have looked at apartments, they just feel too big to me.
  • Fulltiming means being retired and travelling about. If that's not you, what are you doing for income?
  • 1) Find out how much a RV park is going to cost you. In your area, they may be as much as rent.

    2) Add propane to your list of monthly expenses.

    3) Find out if the park has metered electric, in which case you will get a separate electric bill. That will be substantial in the summer when you need AC.

    4) You will need a good place for a cat pan. Those are hard to come by in a RV. Any odors will be worse in a small space. You will have to buy cat food, vet bills, litter. Remember this is a 15 yr + commitment. If you can't afford to take care of an old sick cat, don't get a young healthy one. And even young healthy cats can develop issues requiring meds, surgery, vet visits. Don't get one if you are gone all the time.

    5) If you want to travel in it, get a tow vehicle you can afford and then buy the trailer. If you want to stay put, get someone to move it for you and don't worry about it.

    6) You will be fine with the standard water heater. You can always upgrade later if you want to---IF a 10 gallon will fit in the space.

    7) You mentiononed your wife. How does she feel about this? Happy wife, happy life. Make sure she has a space that suits her.

    8) Get the insulation package.

    9) Get up on the roof about twice a year and inspect every single seam and roof penetration. Caulk if needed, or cover with a sealer tape called Eternabond.

    10) Check for condensation in exterior lights. That means that water is getting in. Caulk well around them, make sure the weep holes are on the bottom, and make sure the weep holes are open.

    11) Make sure the weep holes are open in the windows.
  • ken56 wrote:
    Wow dude, one heck of a laundry list there. First of all, if you don't intend to travel around in it then the tow vehicle isn't a factor. You can just have (hire) someone to tow it to your leased lot and set it up. Now if you want he option to travel then a 1500 series isn't going to be your best option. Too little truck for the weight of the units you are considering, especially in the mountains.

    Expenses arn't much different than a sticks and bricks home. Mortgage payment, insurance, utilities etc. When people set up a unit for long term living they usually use a larger propane tank than what comes with the unit, 20-30 lb. tanks, and hook up to a 100lb. or so. Yes, go with the all season package if offered.

    As far as living space goes, find the floor plan that suits you and works for you. Your needs may be few but once you make the purchase you don't want to discover its not adequate for you and turn out hating it.

    Water is the enemy of any structure. A trailer is more susceptable to seams comming loose. With fiberglas sides you can have delamination but you will see it if it does happen. With aluminum sides you may not see the start of any water damage. As to washing the unit, just have a moblie RV wash co. do it 2x a year. Wax it if you want to after having it washed.

    Cooking is no different than in a house. The weak link in a trailer is usually the oven. Some say they have uneven heating/incorrect temp. control and things burn. I like cooking on a grill anyway myself.

    You are on your own about what insurance carrier to go through. Don't bother joining any clubs like Good Sam. Useless for long term people. Don't bother with the electric stabilizer jacks or tongue jack. You aren't moving around anyway. 6 gal. water heater should be fine for one person.

    Don't get a pet if you can't pay much attention to it, even a cat. Dogs AND cats are social animals and need attention even if they can be "self sufficient".

    I hope I helped you with your questions.


    Perfect! I will look into washing companies and into bigger propane tanks.
  • SoundGuy wrote:
    Rickehshay wrote:
    I might be asking really opinionated questions, and I apologize about that. I'm trying to get every little tiny detail in my head before I commit to something so expensive and find out down the road that something won't work and I get screwed. So I will focus on the tiniest of details with a fine tooth comb if need be.


    JMO, but your mistake here is asking WAY too much all at one go, under the assumption that all this pre-purchase investigation will avoid any future problems that inevitably will arise with owning any recreational vehicle. Truth is, you're going to have to learn the hard way, just as the rest of us have ... there's just no way anyone of us can answer all these questions you have, heck many won't even read everything you've written. :R

    My best recommendation - forget specific models for now, forget the floorplan, and start with deciding just which tow vehicle you're going to use, then match a trailer to the TV. :)


    I know I will have problems down the road, my goal is to avoid as many as possible, an example being my parents with a leaking A/C unit causing the damage to the roof. This being avoided by a simple preventive maintenance check they were unaware of.

    I do realize I put a lot, figured it best to knock everything out in one go instead of playing the reply game with users. The truck isn't the issue. I have a 3500 HD Silverado available to me, but it isn't something I'd like as a daily driver. Since a 1500 won't do it, I can go back to looking for a smaller car. Figured if I could get by with a 1500, it would make sense to get that.
  • Wow dude, one heck of a laundry list there. First of all, if you don't intend to travel around in it then the tow vehicle isn't a factor. You can just have (hire) someone to tow it to your leased lot and set it up. Now if you want he option to travel then a 1500 series isn't going to be your best option. Too little truck for the weight of the units you are considering, especially in the mountains.

    Expenses arn't much different than a sticks and bricks home. Mortgage payment, insurance, utilities etc. When people set up a unit for long term living they usually use a larger propane tank than what comes with the unit, 20-30 lb. tanks, and hook up to a 100lb. or so. Yes, go with the all season package if offered.

    As far as living space goes, find the floor plan that suits you and works for you. Your needs may be few but once you make the purchase you don't want to discover its not adequate for you and turn out hating it.

    Water is the enemy of any structure. A trailer is more susceptable to seams comming loose. With fiberglas sides you can have delamination but you will see it if it does happen. With aluminum sides you may not see the start of any water damage. As to washing the unit, just have a moblie RV wash co. do it 2x a year. Wax it if you want to after having it washed.

    Cooking is no different than in a house. The weak link in a trailer is usually the oven. Some say they have uneven heating/incorrect temp. control and things burn. I like cooking on a grill anyway myself.

    You are on your own about what insurance carrier to go through. Don't bother joining any clubs like Good Sam. Useless for long term people. Don't bother with the electric stabilizer jacks or tongue jack. You aren't moving around anyway. 6 gal. water heater should be fine for one person.

    Don't get a pet if you can't pay much attention to it, even a cat. Dogs AND cats are social animals and need attention even if they can be "self sufficient".

    I hope I helped you with your questions.
  • Rickehshay wrote:
    I might be asking really opinionated questions, and I apologize about that. I'm trying to get every little tiny detail in my head before I commit to something so expensive and find out down the road that something won't work and I get screwed. So I will focus on the tiniest of details with a fine tooth comb if need be.


    JMO, but your mistake here is asking WAY too much all at one go, under the assumption that all this pre-purchase investigation will avoid any future problems that inevitably will arise with owning any recreational vehicle. Truth is, you're going to have to learn the hard way, just as the rest of us have ... there's just no way anyone of us can answer all these questions you have, heck many won't even read everything you've written. :R

    My best recommendation - forget specific models for now, forget the floorplan, and start with deciding just which tow vehicle you're going to use, then match a trailer to the TV. :)
  • If you going to live in one park, get a park model! Cheaper, more room, cannot be easily moved. 30 foot TTs are or can be horrible to tow without proper hitch setup and a really atout truck. They are not suitable for 1500 series trucks. Get a 2500 minimum first time and be done with it.
    Jayco is an OK brand. Any RV can and will eventually leak if not taken care of. Inspection and resealing with the correct products is the key.