My personal feeling, I think you've gotten some bad advice on here. 35 & 40 percent off, frankly i don't believe it unless you are buying a $60K or up rig. 25 percent off, probable in a buyers market ( I happen to think we are in a sellers market right now). 30 percent off maybe in a strong buyers market. From what I have heard lately, 25 Percent on a $25 - $30K rig would be my expectation in todays market. I hear there are lots of buyers right now, middle of summer could be totally different. Just my opinion, yours may vary.