Thanks to all for your feedback. I looked at the Venetian (Thor), The Forza(Win)and The Ventana (Newmar) all relatively in the same price range along with size. I heard more about Newmar and Winn. but hardly anything about Thor. I like what I've seen in the Thor coach but concerned about reliability and servicability history by ownwers who have this or other prducts of Thor. I don't want to buy a vehicle with all the bling and it's structure quality doesn't hold up. I did visit the Newmar factory and 2 things caught my eye the floor construction is wood frame and they used residential insulation (R30) in the roof and side walls which I heard could present a problem with sagging over time. I don't know,just trying to get as much info as possible to make intelligent decision.