All the responses were really helpful. It looks like 16k is to small a budget. I saw a cargo van conversion of 11k. I originally thought it was too much but now I have a different opinion. However if I spend 20k on a van plus having it built out I would still be coming up ahead of buying 80k new or like new class B. We plan to just use the van Mon - Friday as a commuter living situation. I plan to park it on the streets and sleep in it which is why I want it to look as much like a worker van as possible. I don't need the high end stuff just nice floor, shower, cabinets and installation. I see now that the really nice conversion vans I see on youtube had some major money put in them. Im going for the composting toilet so that should drop the price.