nitrohorse wrote:Shunpikers wrote:
To mlts22
That's the kind of input I was hoping for.
I can see your reasoning but I'm not suggesting this should have any cash outlay at all. Only campgrounds who have a bit of extra space might be willing to try it (enough for 2 or 3 spots - in a field or existing parking lot for instance). I know some campgrounds already have areas they use for overflow or as a waiting area when the campground's full. That's the type of spot that can be utilized. Three spots filled every night at $10.00 comes to $900.00 per month.
And how much of the 3 spots at $10.00= $30.00 are you going to pay the overnight front desk person?
Shunpikers wrote:
To mlts22
That's the kind of input I was hoping for.
I can see your reasoning but I'm not suggesting this should have any cash outlay at all. Only campgrounds who have a bit of extra space might be willing to try it (enough for 2 or 3 spots - in a field or existing parking lot for instance). I know some campgrounds already have areas they use for overflow or as a waiting area when the campground's full. That's the type of spot that can be utilized. Three spots filled every night at $10.00 comes to $900.00 per month.
Shunpikers wrote:beemerphile1 wrote:
Why are you hanging around a beginning RV forum? You live on the road for extended periods, operate your own websites, you have a blog, you sell books on how to avoid camping fees, and you advocate camping for free. You brag that you traveled for an entire 12 months but only spent $115.50 in camping fees. You certainly are NOT a beginning RVer.
In my honest opinion you are only on here to take advantage of this free forum to do research for some idea you have.
I think I was pretty honest about why I'm here in my initial post. I'm looking for input from RVers about "my idea" for a new project: Starting an advocacy group for RVers who'd like to see options besides all or nothing ($40 per night or Walmart). Someone as "experienced as I am in my niche" might be able to get something like this going - IF enough RVers want it. If they're all like you, beemerphile1, then there's no need for me to think about it. I'm simply here to find out.
I have to say that I'm really not used to a community that converses with so much sarcasm.... Maybe it was a mistake to come here hoping for true feedback or constructive ideas.
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JaxDad wrote:Maybe I am missing something, but not everyone wants to be McDonalds. I am sure there are many fine dining proprietors who wouldn't trade their restaurant for a Micky Ds. I have no interest in filling my parks if what it takes to fill them is cut-rate prices. If you offer up really low priced sites to some people, the people you charge the normal price to are going to be upset and you will either lose them as customers or have to give them the low price also. I make a whole lot more money being 60% full at $50.00 a site than I would being completely full at $25.00 and there is absolutely no proof that lowering the prices would actually fill the park. My goal is not to sell all the sites, but to maximize my profitability. Sounds like you need to be PMing the other great business minds who have posted on this thread and pool your monies and put people like me out of business. Like I have already said, start your $10.00 parks and get rich just like the Gettys, you apparently have the magic formula, just a whole lot cheaper than everyone else.westernrvparkowner wrote:
I was just saying you cannot convert a Walmart overnighter to an RV park guest. They may very well stay at an RV park or a full blown resort when they get to their destination, but that doesn't mean anything to the parks in the vacinity of the Walmart.
$10.00 sites would almost certainly reduce the revenue for most parks. Some of those full paying guests would opt for the $10 spots.
It just isn't a feasible business plan. If it was, surely someone would have a chain up and running.
So if I understand you correctly, you are saying;
- People who stay in Walmart parking don't stay in campgrounds.
- Campgrounds rarely have vacant sites.
- People who would normally arrive earlier in the day would delay their arrival by 6 to 8 (maybe more) hours to get a cheaper site.
- It's better to have vacant sites generating zero than getting 25 or more percent.
Apparently you need to study the logic of an old fella by the name of John Paul Getty. He was of the opinion that it was better to make $0.05 off the labours of few people than to make a $1.00 himself.
Why?
Because when he got to 21 people he was making more money and doing nothing himself.
Using your fine dining restaurant analogy, name a national 'fine dining' chain that can claim "over 1 billion served"...........
On the other hand is McDonalds, Burger King, Wendy's, Subway, Little Ceasar's, Dominos, Pizza Hut, etc., etc, etc.
I guess maybe ole' J. P. was onto something ..............
westernrvparkowner wrote:
I was just saying you cannot convert a Walmart overnighter to an RV park guest. They may very well stay at an RV park or a full blown resort when they get to their destination, but that doesn't mean anything to the parks in the vacinity of the Walmart.
$10.00 sites would almost certainly reduce the revenue for most parks. Some of those full paying guests would opt for the $10 spots.
It just isn't a feasible business plan. If it was, surely someone would have a chain up and running.
