Vulcan Rider wrote:
wbwood wrote:
now we have people who want to dictate how others live and spend their money.
The amount of people reading what I said, which was worded pretty simply I think, and not coming close to comprehending the problem I guess, just goes to prove WHY the problem is so bad......and why the recent crisis didn't wake up near enough people.
I am not trying to "dictate" anything to anybody, except maybe education. But on the other side of the coin, I don't think I should have to pay for the care and keeping of people who make better money than I do and, for instance, spend more money on beer in a weekend than they spend on food for a whole week.
I think it is sad when folks spend themselves into poverty.
I think it is a national disease and needs treatment.
I don't think that treatment should be forced on anybody but I think they should be prepared to bear the consequences of their stupidity and not put that off on others.
So, those that disagree with that......exactly what part of it do you disagree with ??
Do you think it is somehow good that as much as 30% of the population is chronically over their heads in debt even though they have steady jobs ?
Do you think it is somehow good that these people repeatedly take bankruptcy about as often as the law allows ?
Do you think it is somehow good that they end up old and feeble and probably sick due to bad choices......and flat broke so that the Government (which really is everybody else) has to take care of them ??
If you think you should be allowed to live like a King and then force others to pick up the bill for you later, I have a serious problem with that.
Education is the key. It should start in grade school but seems to be completely absent.
Then the mere mention of getting back to a sane and responsible financial life plan brings angry responses like this.
SIGH.
First of all, I believe it's more than 30%. No one said that people shouldn't reap the consequences of the choices they make. I am in full agreement on that. What I don't agree with is for you to tell people that they are socially inept because of how they choose to spend their money. How much of taxpayers money goes to things in relation to some people's "issues"? Smoking, drugs, alcoholism, sexual diseases, obesity, heart disease, cancer (some), etc? Don't pick just one....lay them all out in a line. That way maybe some politicians can see the need to enforce the school systems and parents to keep the kids in a straight and narrow line.
Don't get me wrong, I am against welfare. At least long term welfare. I don't think it should be easy, nor do I think it should be a lifestyle. But I don't think it's fair to tell a grown person that if they spend their money or live their life a certain way that they are a bad member of society. If that's the case, then everyone is a bad member. Because I may not agree with how you are dealing with things also.
