Hey Guys,I have a 2014 Expedition XLT. Max towing is 9000 and Max tongue is 920 lbs. We recently bought a 2017 Airstream with a hitch weight of 976 lbs. When we bought this last fall it came with a Blue Ox hitch with 1000lb bars. I have a new truck F250 on order (since August), and I have a chance to buy a 2017 F250 to use until our new truck comes in, but we have no idea when that will be. We have a few trips in early summer with most of our towing within an hour of our house. We do have a bigger trip planned for late July and August and hopefully we'll have our new truck by then. Am I pushing the envelop with this setup? Would air bags help?Thanks!

Air bags level the truck but they don’t increase payload. You are over what the manufacturer says is the payload limit. I wouldn’t do it.

Sorry, a bit confused. Is the Expedition a motorhome? If yes, it is a diesel, right? And rides on airbags. Did you mean to say the Blue Ox hitch is rated 1000 lbs. or did you leave out a "0"?

If your Expedition did NOT come with factory installed HD Trailer Towing Package you are really pushing the limit. A lot depends on how much you load the Expedition and what terrain you will be towing over.My F150 was built in January but it is waiting for a computer module that probably won't be there until May.

larry cad wrote:Sorry, a bit confused. Is the Expedition a motorhome? If yes, it is a diesel, right? And rides on airbags. Did you mean to say the Blue Ox hitch is rated 1000 lbs. or did you leave out a "0"? My understanding is Expedition is a large SUV that shares a lot of suspension, brake, and drive train components with a F150. I might be wrong.OP, you know 976 is larger than 920, unless you have had a bad case of covid. Now will it explode as soon as you hook it up? No. It might not stop or handle as well with 1200 lbs on the ball. But odds are if you do not get in the car head first*, KNOW you're pushing the limits, you will be fine. *Millions of miles have convenced me most drivers get in head first. By that I mean but head in driver's seat, sit down, wiggle until the head is firmly implanted, the start the car. It is the job of the rest of public to be sure they safely get where they are going.

JRscooby wrote:larry cad wrote:Sorry, a bit confused. Is the Expedition a motorhome? If yes, it is a diesel, right? And rides on airbags. Did you mean to say the Blue Ox hitch is rated 1000 lbs. or did you leave out a "0"? My understanding is Expedition is a large SUV that shares a lot of suspension, brake, and drive train components with a F150. I might be wrong.OP, you know 976 is larger than 920, unless you have had a bad case of covid. Now will it explode as soon as you hook it up? No. It might not stop or handle as well with 1200 lbs on the ball. But odds are if you do not get in the car head first*, KNOW you're pushing the limits, you will be fine.On the short trips we have traveled it actually tows quite well.Yep, we’ll aware if the weight difference. One of the reasons we ordered a new truck ??The Expedition is a Ford SUV. The Blue Ox bars are 1000lbs rated bars. This did come with the HD towing package. *Millions of miles have convenced me most drivers get in head first. By that I mean but head in driver's seat, sit down, wiggle until the head is firmly implanted, the start the car. It is the job of the rest of public to be sure they safely get where they are going.

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propchef
Explorer
Mar 02, 2022
Lwiddis wrote:
Except Expeditions are HALF ton.

“ A 3/4 ton can handle any AS made. OP will be fine with his Expedition. Relax. You're good.”

And?

Watch your loading and use a WDH and he'll be fine. ASs are towed with half-tons, sedans, and SUVs safely and stably all the time. Even the 30 footers.
Grit_dog
Navigator
Mar 02, 2022
Not saying you can’t tow it successfully. And the vehicle will handle it with the proper modifications. Assuming the camper is in the sub 10klb category loaded up and ready to camp. I would do it if I was behind the wheel.
However you don’t know what the tongue weight is. You probably got the 976 from a brochure or data. You didn’t state what the camper weighs either.
Personally I would t recommend it as you’ve shown you’re new to the towing game and likely don’t know a lot more than you do know about towing.
That said, how’d you get it home? You have the vehicle, camper and wdh, why not try it and see how comfortable you are and how well it pulls?
MFL
Nomad II
Mar 02, 2022
If the 976 hitch wt is brochure dry wt, you may be well over your receiver hitch capability when fully loaded. Receiver max will be listed on receiver.

As mentioned, if not too far over, you can give it a try. Don't be afraid to add some air to front tires, more to rear, up to max if necessary.

Jerry
Cummins12V98
Explorer III
Mar 03, 2022
I would be VERY hesitant as I have seen plenty of those laying on their side. Culprit is the SOFT "P" rated tires.
ssthrd
Explorer
Mar 04, 2022
My Tundra was rated to pull 9800--800# more than your Expedition, and I wouldn't have wanted to tow more than the 7,000# that my TT weighed.

You are pushing the limit IMO.
theoldwizard1
Explorer II
Mar 12, 2022
ferndaleflyer wrote:
Are you kidding me? Hook up your bars , make sure all is level and carry on. Trailer has brakes and a little extra air in rear tires and carry on. That little difference in tongue weight wouldn’t make me worry.

A lot depends on the cargo in the Expedition ! You can easily over load it and be hitting the bump stops even over small bumps.

I do NOT know of any method to increase the springs on an Expedition.
jesseannie
Explorer
Mar 12, 2022
This is the reason I don't ever ask these kinds of questions.
You get answers from "no don't you will end up on your side" to "sure go ahead it no problem"
With this kind of advise you don't know what to do?
Good luck.
Grit_dog
Navigator
Mar 12, 2022
Cummins12V98 wrote:
I would be VERY hesitant as I have seen plenty of those laying on their side. Culprit is the SOFT "P" rated tires.

Really?
See my last reply got the bootski.
Exactly how many Expeditions have you seen rubber side up while towing and you stopped and investigated and your accident reconstruction skills determined the Expeditin tires were the cause?

A bit dramatic, don’t you think? Maybe just recommend heavy duty tires?
Grit_dog
Navigator
Mar 12, 2022
theoldwizard1 wrote:
ferndaleflyer wrote:
Are you kidding me? Hook up your bars , make sure all is level and carry on. Trailer has brakes and a little extra air in rear tires and carry on. That little difference in tongue weight wouldn’t make me worry.

A lot depends on the cargo in the Expedition ! You can easily over load it and be hitting the bump stops even over small bumps.

I do NOT know of any method to increase the springs on an Expedition.

Sure, totally, never know when someone will load 20 bags of cement in their expedition before going camping…..lol.
Are these overtly overly cautious responses pulled from one’s own lack of experience or common sense?
Cummins12V98
Explorer III
Mar 12, 2022
jesseannie wrote:
This is the reason I don't ever ask these kinds of questions.
You get answers from "no don't you will end up on your side" to "sure go ahead it no problem"
With this kind of advise you don't know what to do?
Good luck.

Towing thru Portlands "S" curves with proper leveling and sway control and "Soft" tires started swaying and could not get it under control spun 180 and rolled completely over idling towards the traffic that was behind me. So yea I do have "EXPERIENCE" and people should really think twice as a tow behind RV can be a dangerous thing on corners with little banking and downhill to boot can be a deadly combo.