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- I think most people are aware of the logistics of moving a person with such needs. But again, no where in the article is there any mention that the RV was needed for transportation for the boy. Per the article, they wanted the RV parked at the home "to provide life-sustaining support for Joey in the event their home loses electrical power". The article then says "The Cronleys not only want to park the RV at their home, they also use it when Joey accompanies his parents on trips out of town."
There is nothing there about "evacuation in case of disaster", etc., nor about the inability to otherwise transport the boy safely.
Now, was that part of the court case? Possibly. But without it being mentioned in the article, we really can't assume that is the case.
And while I sympathize with the special circumstances of such disabilities, and I do not like HOAs, I don't have any more information than the article offers on which to base an opinion - and I find that article to be lacking in many ways, as well as to be poorly written and potentially biased and possibly sensationalized. Did anybody look at the size of that boys wheelchair and how large it is? Has anyone thought about the turning radius that is required, so he can move in the RV? The boy is currently on a ventilator. Has anyone thought that his medical condition has deteriorated over the years and the support system needed is more extensive.
Still think they did the right thing. The generator is not sufficient to move this young man out of harms way if a hurricane is coming.
omg. :S
1. First of all a wheelchair does NOT fit thru an RV door!
2. Home portable ventilators have a battery back up that works for 8 hours. Allowing plenty of time to move the patient.
3. Anyone living in a hurricane state KNOWS they have a full week notice to evacuated. Hurricanes don't drop out of the sky without notice.
And MOST important?
Any responsible person with disabilities or have family members on life support equipment in the home EVACUATE or call an ambulance vehicle to relocate that person to safety AHEAD of time in a safe and timely manner to prevent lose of life you don't wait out in storms with a handicap that can be life threatening, you EVACUATE.
Trust me you do NOT try to shove them in a MH that does not accommodate them and sit in the path of a storm in it or leisurely drive around in the RV during a hurricane warning just to use the generator. :R
AND
Those people like everyone else that owns a MH and lives in a house ALSO owns another vehicle for everyday travel to get their family member and themselves around for daily use.
If you have a family member this vehicle is also equipped or is a model to accommodates your handicapped family member.
Don't think they used the MH for everyday use nor was it their primary mode of transportation.
You don't honestly think they used the MH 'exclusively' to go to the doctor, shopping, etc with this handicapped person do you? No they where claiming they did and that it HAD to be parked on their property.
It was a shot in the dark to use the handicap card to get around that their "recreational vehicle" they bought was longer than the rules allowed.
grr I get so upset with people misusing handicap accommodations afforded to the truly handicapped.. Fake service dogs, fake handicap placards to park in the handicap spots, fake handicaps to get gov assist. etc etc This family truly had a handicap family member and wanted to USE his condition to benefit themselves, just sad.rockhillmanor wrote:
Did anybody look at the size of that boys wheelchair and how large it is? Has anyone thought about the turning radius that is required, so he can move in the RV? The boy is currently on a ventilator. Has anyone thought that his medical condition has deteriorated over the years and the support system needed is more extensive.
Still think they did the right thing. The generator is not sufficient to move this young man out of harms way if a hurricane is coming.
omg. :S
1. First of all a wheelchair does NOT fit thru an RV door!
2. Home portable ventilators have a battery back up that works for 8 hours. Allowing plenty of time to move the patient.
3. Anyone living in a hurricane state KNOWS they have a full week notice to evacuated. Hurricanes don't drop out of the sky without notice.
And MOST important?
Any responsible person with disabilities or have family members on life support equipment in the home EVACUATE or call an ambulance vehicle to relocate that person to safety AHEAD of time in a safe and timely manner to prevent lose of life you don't wait out in storms with a handicap that can be life threatening, you EVACUATE.
Trust me you do NOT try to shove them in a MH that does not accommodate them and sit in the path of a storm in it or leisurely drive around in the RV during a hurricane warning just to use the generator. :R
AND
Those people like everyone else that owns a MH and lives in a house ALSO owns another vehicle for everyday travel to get their family member and themselves around for daily use.
If you have a family member this vehicle is also equipped or is a model to accommodates your handicapped family member.
Don't think they used the MH for everyday use nor was it their primary mode of transportation.
You don't honestly think they used the MH 'exclusively' to go to the doctor, shopping, etc with this handicapped person do you? No they where claiming they did and that it HAD to be parked on their property.
It was a shot in the dark to use the handicap card to get around that their "recreational vehicle" they bought was longer than the rules allowed.
grr I get so upset with people misusing handicap accommodations afforded to the truly handicapped.. Fake service dogs, fake handicap placards to park in the handicap spots, fake handicaps to get gov assist. etc etc This family truly had a handicap family member and wanted to USE his condition to benefit themselves, just sad.
How did you come up with that conclusion? :h
I didn`t read any of that in the article!
And who is anyone to tell this family how to care for their son! If they want the RV then that is what they should have!- Needless to say, I am RV friendly, but I believe anyone who moves into a restricted neighborhood should abide by the rules they agreeded to when they purchased their home. Thier claim is total BS.
rtate wrote:
Needless to say, I am RV friendly, but I believe anyone who moves into a restricted neighborhood should abide by the rules they agreeded to when they purchased their home. Thier claim is total BS.
Yep.
For those saying it's only 2.5 feet. Read back in this string where the writer of the article made it clear that the 2.5 foot encroachment was along the entire shared property line, i.e. due to the width, not the length, of the RV.
IMO, they played the handicapped card and won on a very narrow technical basis: that the lower court abused its discretion. Neither the HOA rules nor the substantive zoning law were addressed by the Court. This could come up again.- I'm not going along with the handicapped placard card/license that some seem to be obsessed with sooo I'm out of this thread.
Just seems hiding behind a screen mean spirited. PA12DRVR wrote:
rtate wrote:
Needless to say, I am RV friendly, but I believe anyone who moves into a restricted neighborhood should abide by the rules they agreeded to when they purchased their home. Thier claim is total BS.
Yep.
For those saying it's only 2.5 feet. Read back in this string where the writer of the article made it clear that the 2.5 foot encroachment was along the entire shared property line, i.e. due to the width, not the length, of the RV.
IMO, they played the handicapped card and won on a very narrow technical basis: that the lower court abused its discretion. Neither the HOA rules nor the substantive zoning law were addressed by the Court. This could come up again.
Setback meens front of property, not the side.- This is not a HOA issue but rather a zoning issue in Jefferson Parish. Our daughter lives in Metairie in Jefferson Parish where we wintered this year. When we purchased our new MH in February in Alabama, we parked it in our daughter's (very long) driveway for three weeks before we returned home to Ohio in March. The day before we left, a zoning inspector came to the house and asked, "What's the deal with the motor home?" I said, "It will be gone tomorrow." The zoning guy said, "Works for me.", turned around and left.
We had parked a motor home there before in the past but only for a couple days and never got asked about it. - I thought setback was the space required to be "set back" from the property line - all the way around the property, not just the front. If there is a 5ft setback, then you have to leave 5ft between any structure and the property line - regardless of whether it's in the backyard, frontyard, etc. - unless the zoning regulation specifically identifies the setback as being for the front, side, etc. only.
Dodge guy - Rockhillmanor was responding to comments by Toobold who has made a lot of such assumptions that are not mentioned in the article. Which is why I keep pointing it out, once you start making assumptions, everyone starts making assumptions and the actual facts get completely lost in a fantasy argument with no basis on reality. toedtoes wrote:
I thought setback was the space required to be "set back" from the property line - all the way around the property, not just the front. If there is a 5ft setback, then you have to leave 5ft between any structure and the property line - regardless of whether it's in the backyard, frontyard, etc. - unless the zoning regulation specifically identifies the setback as being for the front, side, etc. only.
Dodge guy - Rockhillmanor was responding to comments by Toobold who has made a lot of such assumptions that are not mentioned in the article. Which is why I keep pointing it out, once you start making assumptions, everyone starts making assumptions and the actual facts get completely lost in a fantasy argument with no basis on reality.
The setback in Jefferson Parish residential areas is completely behind the front line of the main occupied structure or 60 ft behind the front property line whichever is closer to the property line.
