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- DrewEExplorer II
djgarcia wrote:
If my Lance trailer has a 30 amps cord for power, can I use a 50 amp surge protector without any problems or do I need to have 30/50 amp surge protector so I can use 30 or 50 amp, which ever is available at the particular park I am at???
If you have a 30A RV, you only need a 30A protector. You can plug the 30A RV cord into a 50A socket with an adapter.
A 50A protecter will also work, but unless you are going to upgrade and move it to a 50A RV, it's wasted money to get it. (On the other hand, if you do upgrade and move the protector, it's saved money in not buying two protectors.) - tvman44ExplorerGet a Progressive Industries unit, the best and a life time warranty.
- cbshoestringExplorer II
Sillybugs2 wrote:
When you say easy for a diy is it really easy. Dh knows some elctrical stuff but not much in a trailer. To what is it installed in the trailer? This looks good and easy to use once installed.
WHEN IN DOUBT, CALL A LICENSED ELECTRICIAN. However, the point where the device is install does not directly affect the 120v/12v dual system. The Progressive is install directly into the 120v plug (think house wiring) before it gets to that tricky RV system.
Finding a location to put it can be the hardest part. You have to find out which cuppy-hole inside the trailer holds the plug when you stow it (push it into the trailer). If you have a removable plug, there is still a similar guage wire running between that plug and the inverter.
For me, I had plenty of space behind the inverter, which happened to be under the closet. I removed the cloest "floor", install Progressive behind inverter, ran the display to a spot above the inverter.
You can see below that I cut main wire coming into trailer, screwed progessive to floor where I cut the wire, clamped both sides into the box... white/white, black/black, green/green (screwed to box). Not overly difficult. That mess of wires outside the PROGESSIVE, as well as the system within the PROGRESSIVE, is never touched in order to install the box. There are youtube videos explaining the install.
If a plumber puts something in loose, the leak shows up instantly. If an electician has a loose wire....you find out when the FIRE starts.
WHEN IN DOUBT, CALL A PROFESSIONAL. - Sillybugs2ExplorerThanks all. if we don't get the portable will have it installed but think will go with progressive.
- eDUBzExplorerYup I recentley installed a Progressive Industries Hardwire 30A surge protector. I went with hardwire because its one less thing to remember, installed and forget about.
- SoundGuyExplorer
eDUBz wrote:
Yup I recentley installed a Progressive Industries Hardwire 30A surge protector. I went with hardwire because its one less thing to remember, installed and forget about.
That's only part of the story because while the Progressive Industries' EMS portable and hard wire units are electrically similar there are several advantages to the hard wire version.
- the portable unit is designed to hang from the campsite post so theft is potentially an issue. The portable units do have a metal ring through which one can install a cable lock and around the power post but truth is if someone wants it they'll get it anyway. A better solution would be to locate the portable EMS at the camper and run an extension cable from there out to the power post. Of course, even a portable EMS can be installed inside the camper by simply adding a pair of connectors to the incoming main service cable. OTOH, theft of a hard wire model isn't an issue because it's intended to be installed inside the camper.
- since the portable unit would normally be located outside the camper viewing the error codes isn't anywhere near as convenient as it is with the hard wire version which comes with a separate error code monitor panel that can be located inside the camper for easy viewing. Handy also for monitoring campground source voltage.
- the portable unit has a fixed time delay of 136" and because the unit is sealed for protection from the weather the case is not designed to be opened. OTOH, the hard wire version is designed to be field serviceable, meaning one can open the case by simply removing 6 screws ... remove a jumper and the delay can be switched from 15" to 136". I normally run mine on the shorter 15" delay for convenience, only resetting it to 136" when we're running the A/C and require the longer delay. To make this even more convenient I removed the jumper and wired a toggle switch across the jumper contacts so I can externally switch between the two delay settings without having to open the case.
- both the portable and hard wire version EMS units carry a lifetime warranty but because the portable unit is sealed it must be returned to the manufacturer for repair. OTOH, the hard wire version is field serviceable - should it ever fail, call Progressive, describe the symptoms and provide any error code you see, and they'll simply mail you the replacement part(s) required that you can install yourself. That's especially handy for those of us not living in the US as it means we don't have to deal with customs paperwork and costs.
- it's rarely mentioned in these discussions but the portable unit, because it's sealed, cannot be re-calibrated for more accurate operation by the owner. OTOH, the hard wire version can be, provided of course one knows how to do it. I do, and have.
- the portable version typically costs more than the hard wire version because the portable is fitted with 30 (or 50) amp connectors whereas the hard wire has none. Of course one can add a set of connectors to the hard wire version (as I have) to allow for instant removal later, for any reason.
- and as mentioned, once installed the hard wire unit requires no more attention on the part of the owner whereas one does need to install the portable unit each time it's used.
All that said, most would opt for the portable version simply because it's easy to use - just plug it in and you're good to go. Either way though, one can't go wrong with a Progressive Industries portable OR hard wire EMS. Pics are in my gallery for anyone interested. - is_it_friday_yeExplorerI installed a Progressive 50 amp EMS with the remote monitor in our new trailer. The hardest part was bending the heavy gauge wiring. I say if you can access the area, try it yourself. I ordered the surge protector through Amazon and bought the wiring from the Home Depot. I'm not an electrician but have done some home wiring.
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