Actual Payload of vehicles....

First decide if you believe in the OEM ratings or not

If not, then do whatever...knowing that you have now taken the OEMs
off the warranty hook (if any left) and liability hook.

If not, then this discussion is mute or academic...

If yes, then learn how they work in and as a system

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lawrosa wrote:
Im glad you replied. I wont go into this too much more, but just touch base on a few items..

If your door sticker lists the GAWR with the same size tires as on your vehicle now, then your vehicle is an exception.

Tires are 2270 lbs max @ 50 psi each. These are stock.
Door tag says 2700 lb axles.

That is the OEM's rating for the axle assembly on that truck

I haven't found any "official" weight rating for the GM 8.5" 10 bolt, but one forum thread I found listed it as 4000 lbs, while you post 3750 lbs.

Yes I saw the 4k on a site too, but found a dealer that looked up the specs for the widely used gm 8.5 " 10 bolt and they stated 3750 lbs

The 'official axle rating for your vehicle is the door label. Anything
else found is NOT the official rating for your TV's axle

it appears your axle actually IS the weak link. Considering the 1335 weight of the camper you're looking at is the dry weight, once you add water, propane and the misc camping supplies you'll be carrying, you're probably going to be over your axle rating.

OK just say I pack light and it keeps me under the 3750 lbs.. Would it be ok? ( But see response below. )

Yes, most TV's will run into rear GAWR first and the lower the class
truck, the sooner that ratings limit will be reached

The difference between your plan and the discussion in the TC forum is the axle. That poster has a 2500HD w/6.0l which has the AAM 10.5 axle rated 8600 lbs.

OK but that op's door tag apparently is 6200 lb axle weights? His scale weight was well over 7000 lbs as I recall.

So your reply in that aspect was his axles could handle it.. ( And thats fine, I would agree )

Again, the door label on 'that' vehicle is the rating for the axle on
'that' vehicle

Either you believe in it or not

but his tire capacity was the weak link. My

Correct.. And if the OP in that link upgraded his tires, aside from rubbing, what would his issue be?

It appears no different then my truck.

that OP, is over his door tag as well well as I would be over mine if I attempted this scenerio..

But mechanically ratings of my axles , tires say its with in specs..

Note:
I have full boxed frame.

So going over tags and all other specs are with in weights whats the issue?

Engine?
Brakes?


I believe my spring pack is the weak link in regards to payload. But I can beef that up..

Its very funny because my door tag actually says payload max 785 lbs and in the glove compartment states not TC approved... hehe..



Now what I believe..

My axles per door tag

2700 x 2 = 5400. ( I will never go over this )
GVW 4900 lbs.. ( Registration states 5000 lbs)
Payload 765 ( LOL)

Scale weights truck only

Rear 1860
Front 2560

4420 ( At about 5000 towing with all gear)

WD hitch not activated with trailer

rear 2480
front 2360 ( took 200 lbs off front)
tt 3980

8820

WD activated

Rear 2200
front 2560 ( restored exactly to original)
tt 4060

8820




Towing calculator...


I dont believe anyone should go over their axle ratings as posted on the door tag....

But 5 ers and TC doo it all the time ime sure...:)

Back to my point whether you believe in the OEM ratings system or not...

I believe in the OEM ratings system and follow them

Here is my drivers door label with info on it's
GVWR
FGAWR
RGAWR
Tire size/type and recommended PSI
Wheel size


mysubdoorlabel mydoorlabel suburbandoorlabel

Note that GM does NOT produce the rear axle on my Suburban. AAM does
and they rate it at 10,000 lbs GAWR. GM rates it 6,000 lbs GAWR

Weight carrying is NOT the only thing to the rear axle assembly. Braking
is another attribute.

What are you, the OP, trying to do with this exercise?

Seems to me...you the OP wants a higher class and/or rating for your
S10 pickup and say you will spend less just buying a bigger or higher
class pickup...

Also, just because someone else goes over...does it mean it is the
right thing to do...


PS...my Silverado is a half ton and has 1 ton coil helper springs on
the rear axle

That has NOT changed it's ratings in any way


Silveradohelpersprings coilhelpersprings 1tonhelper 1tonhelpersprings