Many problems owners encounter with their new rigs are a result of sloppy work during assembly. Quality and piece work might work well in a monastery. But I doubt it, human nature being what it is.Manufacturers could profit by offering an "option" that would cover the extra cost of workers taking time to do it right and additional profit for the company. A system of worker id's associated with reports of subsequent reports of problems would help ensure the workers took their jobs seriously.The companies might offer the extra pay work to their most reliable long time workers in order to avoid using people who still do sloppy work and then leave a short time later.The option could be presented in a manner that would avoid the impression that the product would be substandard if not taken. Just a marketing issue.

No offence, but that's a bad idea. If a manufacturer' gave me that option I would run. Maybe I should tell my hardwood customers I'll do their floor correctly for an additional cost.

I'm not sure that is going to fly. It would have to be on par with the marketing Oygenics does with their shower heads claiming their product ionizes water and eliminates free radicals. I didn't believe them either BTW.

Would you take that option if your surgeon was offering it ? I would not use him if he offered it! Do it right the first time... that's not that hard

None taken. The last paragraph recognized the problem and addressed it. We get sold******all the time, it's what Madison Avenue does. I could see one manufacturer picking this plan up and developing a heck of a reputation for quality.

IMO substandard RV products are offerred because we can't afford to pay for the good stuff. My 2003 Newmar Dutch Star is a perfect example. I would've NEVER bought it, except that I could NOT afford what I really wanted.That's the way it's been most of my life. That's the reason I buy lotto tickets.BTW I fixed and modified many things in my Dutch Star. There's no way I would have a RV if I couldn't do my own mainenance AND repairs.Thanks to all who have helped me, here on the RV.NET forums.

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ford_truck_guy
Nomad
Sep 17, 2013
cekkk wrote:
ford truck guy wrote:
Would you take that option if your surgeon was offering it ? I would not use him if he offered it! Do it right the first time... that's not that hard

Point on. If you can afford it, you find and pay for a surgeon who who wasn't at the bottom of his class. So, yes, the best charge, or "offer" it now.

As for doing it right the first time, I completely agree. That's the way it should work. But that takes us back to the monastery problem, doesn't it.

Maybe this is too scary, but innovation often is.

The sad thing really is.... That we are having this conversation... IF ALL workers took pride in their work it would be a non issue... Up charge for a better or sturdier model.. I'm ok with that... up charge to have something double or triple checked, should not have to pay for that
Francesca_Knowl
Explorer
Sep 17, 2013
Wouldn't such an option simply destroy the market for the adopting mfr.'s ordinary line of goods, at the same time giving other mfr's the opportunity to maintain that they need no such option since theirs are already "high quality units"?
cekkk
Explorer
Sep 17, 2013
ford truck guy wrote:
Would you take that option if your surgeon was offering it ? I would not use him if he offered it! Do it right the first time... that's not that hard

Point on. If you can afford it, you find and pay for a surgeon who who wasn't at the bottom of his class. So, yes, the best charge, or "offer" it now.

As for doing it right the first time, I completely agree. That's the way it should work. But that takes us back to the monastery problem, doesn't it.

Maybe this is too scary, but innovation often is.
Gemstone
Explorer
Sep 17, 2013
"IMO substandard RV products are offerred because we can't afford to pay for the good stuff"....trust me, there is not much distinction between the workmanship of entry level rigs and the "good stuff"...unless you really get into the high end market of the top 2-3 manufacturers.

IMO, the reason poor quality rigs are pushed off of the assembly line is that there is no motivation to do otherwise. Obviously there is enough markup in the sale price to cover the anticipated warranty work, and there are enough new people standing in line to purchase their product...so why change ?

Regards
Gemstone
cekkk
Explorer
Sep 17, 2013
None taken. The last paragraph recognized the problem and addressed it. We get sold******all the time, it's what Madison Avenue does. I could see one manufacturer picking this plan up and developing a heck of a reputation for quality.
Cloud_Dancer
Explorer II
Sep 17, 2013
IMO substandard RV products are offerred because we can't afford to pay for the good stuff. My 2003 Newmar Dutch Star is a perfect example.
I would've NEVER bought it, except that I could NOT afford what I really wanted.
That's the way it's been most of my life. That's the reason I buy lotto tickets.
BTW I fixed and modified many things in my Dutch Star. There's no way I would have a RV if I couldn't do my own mainenance AND repairs.
Thanks to all who have helped me, here on the RV.NET forums.
ford_truck_guy
Nomad
Sep 17, 2013
Would you take that option if your surgeon was offering it ? I would not use him if he offered it! Do it right the first time... that's not that hard
fla-gypsy
Explorer
Sep 17, 2013
I'm not sure that is going to fly. It would have to be on par with the marketing Oygenics does with their shower heads claiming their product ionizes water and eliminates free radicals. I didn't believe them either BTW.
Rockrash
Explorer
Sep 17, 2013
No offence, but that's a bad idea. If a manufacturer' gave me that option I would run. Maybe I should tell my hardwood customers I'll do their floor correctly for an additional cost.

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