Currently I'm looking at Toy Haulers (very different designs - one IBEX and one Grand momentum 28G) and it's been a few years since I've been shopping.. I know Covid put a hurt on the the inventory and deals but can you still get 30% off MSRP like the 'old days'? Just wondering what everyone has been seeing...

Background: Just purchased a 2021 TT. My shopping experience: Found the best deals from wholesalers, but when factoring in delivery and the fact that your not connected to any RV business for service - decided against it. I found a Colorado dealer a few hours from my home who had a better overall price than the wholesalers. Hard to say what kind of deal it was. They tell me the TT retail price is $35K, we paid $25K. That seemed to be the lower range seen around the net.RV Trader was my go-to place to compare new/used rigs. It seemed the better prices were on the east coast. West coast was insane :E Good luck finding a "great deal" and I hope you find a rig that checks all your boxes.

I've been using rv trader as well, I don't like how most dealers won't list prices anymore... I also generally try to shop local, I won't lie... Just wasn't happy with the deal they offered me. It's nice to see ~30% off example shown above - maybe 'deals' still exist!

The final price is up to you to accept regardless if they advertise some fake "MSRP"..If you are not comfortable with the deal, then don't go through with it and find another RV that suits you price range.However, if you think the prices are going to magically drop, you are in for a bumpy ride..Prices of materials have gone through the roof, try pricing lumber, you will be in for a sticker shock.. I needed some 2x12s to repair a old shed floor, jaw hit the floor when I saw $21 per 8ft 2x12!!! Those used to cost less than $8 each before all the panic buying..I have heard reports of lumber and building material shortages..Then you have companies having to buy PPE, severally reduce their workforce in order to fit them in their buildings which reduces speed and efficiency costing the company thousands more per unit..Add in now we have this newest wave of panic buying.. My DD works at our local Sam's club reported the other day that panic buying is on again.. TP, yep, GONE, fresh meats, yep, GONE and so on..You better not be so picky and if you REALLY want that unit, you just might need to reconsider your position.. Otherwise the next time you look, it may be far more expensive or not available anywhere..

Always deals to be had no matter the state of the current market, going into winter should help as sales drop for most dealers around the country. Peruse the models you are interested in across the web, as said above RV Trader along with many other sites can be helpful in determining price range of particular units. Having financing and or cash in place and a willingness to travel will net the best deals. We purchased our current rig this past summer after extensive research, had to travel out of state to get it but we saved a bundle. Dealers locally had plenty of stock during the current pandemic, heard other areas of the country there was some kind of buying frenzy. More than likely it was Newbies thinking RVing was the only way to travel in the future. RVing isn't everyone's cup of tea, might soon have a plethora of near new rigs on the market to choose from.

The last few issues of RV Business Magazine have been talking about the unprecedented and unforeseen boom that the RV industry is seeing now. To quote Doug Gaeddert who runs Forest River for Berkshire Hathaway, "People who couldn't even spell 'RV' 6 months ago have decided that RVing is the perfect socially-distanced vacation."Dealer inventories remain low because the factories can't keep up. Dealers don't want to sell everything because then they have nothing to show new buyers. Because the market has expanded with so many new buyers, industry experts expect this to continue thru 2021 into 2022, so I wouldn't expect any deals.Good idea watching RV trader, I'll bet there are at least some folks that went out and bought a brand new RV for the first time and then decided they didn't like it and are selling it after one season...probably some good deals to be had there.Also bear in mind that RV mfrs don't require their dealers to provide warranty service on units that weren't purchased at their dealership. This was an industry move about 10 years ago to discourage the online wholesalers and protect local dealerships. Laws that cover the auto industry about consumer warranties don't apply to RVs. Not saying this to discourage you from buying online, but know this about warranties going in.Not sure where you are in Central PA but Tom Schaeffer's RV Superstore in Shoemakersville is a high volume dealer, he's on PA 61 just south of I-78 (Cabela's exit). I've never shopped there personally (and I'm not affiliated with them) but always hear good things.

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pulpwood007
Explorer
Nov 20, 2020
bikendan wrote:
pulpwood007 wrote:
FlashBuddy wrote:
Background: Just purchased a 2021 TT.
My shopping experience: Found the best deals from wholesalers, but
RV Trader was my go-to place to compare new/used rigs.

What exactly is a "wholesaler" ? I thought all manufacturers only sold through retail dealers.

You are correct. The "wholesaler" tag is a marketing term. But, like RV Wholesalers for example, they deal in high volume sales, therefore getting better pricing from the manufacturer.

Exactly, a marketing ploy. However, there used to be some internet based dealers that were great.

About 12 years ago I purchased a Crossroads Cruiser from one of these dealers in Ohio. It was 1000 mile drive from my home in Texas. Price was about $7K less than the best deal I could find anywhere locally. They also could offer a better price because of their low freight cost from the factory (being very close). All units were special order so they had no money tied up in inventory. Folks willing to travel got a great deal.

All that stopped a couple of years later when local dealers started losing business because of pricing, and having customers buy at these remote locations and then bring them into local dealers wanting warranty work. Manufacturers started cracking down on internet low pricing, and as a result, we also now have policies (supported by the manufacturers) where non-selling dealers do not voluntarily have to work on trailers.

All good things must come to an end..............
Vanished
Explorer
Nov 20, 2020
dedmiston wrote:
Vanished wrote:
It took a good bit of negotiations thru several dealers, but I landed on a Momentum 28G locally for a price I'm happy with that I'm picking up next week. Thanks for the input!

I just looked up the floorplan. That's a real beauty. Nice.

What kind of toys do you plan to haul? It looks like there's plenty of space from front to back, as long as your toys aren't too wide for the slide.

Thanks.. We wanted the open floor plan for our Kayaks but the toy hauler for my Indian Springfield. We also have a Rincon as well that I like to take out.
Super_Dave
Explorer
Nov 19, 2020
The RV Business Magazine articles must be like published fishing reports, old. All the RV dealers in our area had empty lots all summer but are now wall to wall new units, squeezed in like valet parking.
dedmiston
Moderator
Nov 19, 2020
Vanished wrote:
It took a good bit of negotiations thru several dealers, but I landed on a Momentum 28G locally for a price I'm happy with that I'm picking up next week. Thanks for the input!

I just looked up the floorplan. That's a real beauty. Nice.

What kind of toys do you plan to haul? It looks like there's plenty of space from front to back, as long as your toys aren't too wide for the slide.
ford_truck_guy
Nomad
Nov 19, 2020
Vanished wrote:
It took a good bit of negotiations thru several dealers, but I landed on a Momentum 28G locally for a price I'm happy with that I'm picking up next week. Thanks for the input!

Congratulations ! As long as YOU are HAPPY with the price, that is all that matters.!!

Happy Camping ! Stay Safe

Joe
bikendan
Explorer
Nov 19, 2020
pulpwood007 wrote:
FlashBuddy wrote:
Background: Just purchased a 2021 TT.
My shopping experience: Found the best deals from wholesalers, but
RV Trader was my go-to place to compare new/used rigs.

What exactly is a "wholesaler" ? I thought all manufacturers only sold through retail dealers.

You are correct. The "wholesaler" tag is a marketing term. But, like RV Wholesalers for example, they deal in high volume sales, therefore getting better pricing from the manufacturer.
pulpwood007
Explorer
Nov 19, 2020
FlashBuddy wrote:
Background: Just purchased a 2021 TT.
My shopping experience: Found the best deals from wholesalers, but
RV Trader was my go-to place to compare new/used rigs.

What exactly is a "wholesaler" ? I thought all manufacturers only sold through retail dealers.
Vanished
Explorer
Nov 19, 2020
It took a good bit of negotiations thru several dealers, but I landed on a Momentum 28G locally for a price I'm happy with that I'm picking up next week. Thanks for the input!
Vanished
Explorer
Nov 17, 2020
Thanks for the suggestions and input... I'll keep shopping around till I find a deal I'm good with.
ford_truck_guy
Nomad
Nov 16, 2020
You can look at Susquehanna RV, they have 2 facilities, 1 in Selingsgrove, and 1 in Bloomsburg.. they are a family owned facility and treat people fair..

I purchased my last Redwood from the Selingsgrove store and it was a good experience. Although they do not stock the manufacturers yu stated, they may have something you like..

ON edit... They are showing a few 2020 fifth wheels at 35% off MSRP.

here - - Susquehanna RV

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