myredracer wrote:
Ralph Cramden wrote:
The facts are that 90% of what's out there is going to be on a frame made by Lippert and that's where the problems originate. Thin steel, fugly welds, questionable engineering.
That can't be emphasized enough. I've read of numerous FWs with broke pin box welds and it's not limited to Heartland.
Just know that according to Lippert, it's always the owner's fault for overloading and/or driving on bad roads... There will be owners with the same frame that have never had a problem and claim there's nothing wrong with the frames and will defend them to the ends of the earth. Major problem IMO is that there are no regulations of any kind on trailer frames so Lippert can build them however they want, and they do. Don't fall for their claims of quality control either because that is next to meaningless.
We discovered a major problem with the Lippert frame on a previous TT one day after we owned it. Initially Lippert declared it was "within spec" (yeah, whatever). Took it to a gov't certified inspection facility who said it was absolutely the worst frame they'd ever seen. A detailed report + photos from them ended up with the TT being replaced under warranty with one with a very heavy duty frame. That RV manufacturer continues to churn out the same line of TTs with the same crappy frame...
If we were ever to get a new TT, I'd go out of my way to get one with a non-Lippert frame. Small consolation tho. because there can be plenty of other LCI cr*p in a TT or FW like sofa, doors, "stabilizer" (haha) jacks, and much more, pffft.
How does one find out what frames are used on a unit? I’m looking at a Forest River Cedar creek and am not finding any info about the frame.
