Bicyclist/RV Death

they have the right to ride there, but NOT the common sense to know better.
Jay D.

there should be a license fee established so there could be some funding for adequate bike lanes and other bike things.

No thanks-we pay enough in taxes.

On some roads there's just no place for a bike lane. Many of the roads in the northeast are barely wide enough for 2 cars to pass each other let alone adding a bike line. It gets very difficult around here because there's a "3 foot" rule-you must pass a bicyclist at least 3 feet from him. There are so many factors that come into play when passing an object of any sort on a roadway-speed, weather conditions, the oncoming car speeding up unexpectedly, an unseen dip or bump in the road-that can make a safe situation go south in a heartbeat. Personally I can't understand why bicyclists (and joggers) choose the roads and the timing they do-it almost seems as if they are asking for trouble. What happened is a very tragic accident that may or may not have been avoidable. NO ONE knows for sure.

badsix wrote:
there should be a license fee established so there could be some funding for adequate bike lanes and other bike things.
Jay D.

I grew up in Dallas, Tx and in the 1950-60's there was a bicycle license fee, no bike lanes but a tax only.

badsix wrote:
there should be a license fee established so there could be some funding for adequate bike lanes and other bike things.
Jay D.

or simply reduce spending, cut fat and waste and re-direct $ to bike lanes.

there should be a license fee established so there could be some funding for adequate bike lanes and other bike things.
Jay D.

I can only add that in the area where I live people are ridiculous with needing to walk/run in the street, and worse of all push their strollers......2 abreast in the street. All while a perfectly useable sidewalk is 5 feet to their left!!!!! I use sidewalks when possible it’s better for my safety and everyone else’s.

Chum lee wrote:
As an avid cyclist all my life, I've been gravitating towards using dedicated bike lanes more and more. Cyclists generally don't buy gasoline (pay fuel taxes) so funding is an issue, but, keeping bike lanes separate from vehicular traffic, where possible, IMO, is a good idea for everyone.

Chum lee

I agree! The photo in the article showed a narrow curved road with about a 9" "bike lane", Enter an RV who is probably 9+ feet wide when you add the mirrors...and yes, I can see how this tragedy could occur. My heart breaks not only for the life lost; but for the RVer(s) involved.

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Airdaile wrote:

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Airdaile wrote:

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azdryheat wrote:
When you step foot in the ocean you become part of the food chain. Kind of the same on a roadway.

Like it or not, as aggravating as they can sometimes be, a cyclist has the same legal rights to most roads as we do with our RVs.

And I will afford them their rights as soon as I see one of them stop for a stop sign.

Case closed. I also have never seen someone in an automobile not obeying traffic laws. But I assure you. If I see someone in a car fails to stop, game on time to run them down.

Nice try. If a motorist runs a stop sign and a cop sees it, there's at least a chance that someone will get a ticket. Nothing ever happens to a biker - NOTHING. Never seen or even heard of a cop busting a cyclist. Scofflaws pure and simple.

The old it doesn't fit my narrative so it never happens argument. Well done.

i worked in and later managed a regional 9-1-1 call center/centralized dispatch for 12-police agencies employing an aggregate of about 450-500 officers. in all that time i never heard of a police officer in any of those towns stopping a biker to issue a warning much less a citation and yet in nice weather i see bikers routinely running stop lights, stop signs and otherwise riding recklessly.

a few years back there was a tragic car vs biker crash on a major 4-lane urban regional road. the biker was riding after dark wearing non-reflective dark clothing on an unlit bike. the deceased was a well liked employee at a fast food restaurant. his family, friends and others who knew him T work were devastated by the loss as was, i suspect, the driver of the car. got to be tough to live with. no charges were filed.

Airdaile wrote:

mich800 wrote:

Airdaile wrote:

whjco wrote:

azdryheat wrote:
When you step foot in the ocean you become part of the food chain. Kind of the same on a roadway.

Like it or not, as aggravating as they can sometimes be, a cyclist has the same legal rights to most roads as we do with our RVs.

And I will afford them their rights as soon as I see one of them stop for a stop sign.

Case closed. I also have never seen someone in an automobile not obeying traffic laws. But I assure you. If I see someone in a car fails to stop, game on time to run them down.

Nice try. If a motorist runs a stop sign and a cop sees it, there's at least a chance that someone will get a ticket. Nothing ever happens to a biker - NOTHING. Never seen or even heard of a cop busting a cyclist. Scofflaws pure and simple.

The old it doesn't fit my narrative so it never happens argument. Well done.

winnietrey wrote:
At 64, I still ride quite a bit. Montana 2 is listed as one of the more dangerous roads in America. High speed limit, sharp curves with small shoulders.

Not blaming the cyclist, just saying for me, would not be a road I would ride. Risk avoidance

i'm an avid bike rider and just bought a couple elec bikes. but YES, good common sense would be a good thing. but you rarely see it in the bike community.
Jay D.