California Firearm Compliance

I had hoped that this would be the first gun thread that would die a natural death, but I think there are more posts in the deleted pile than there are in this thread.

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wnjj wrote:
Normally I’m all for states’ rights to make laws as they see fit, but this is one area that clearly needs stronger “guidance” from the feds so this terrible inconsistency isn’t making criminals out of its citizenry when they cross state lines.

You're right on the money with that!

IMHO, gun control just about "everywhere" needs to be at the Federal level for uniformity across the nation. As we travel around in our RV, I for one would like to know what I'm likely to be facing when around any given group of locals.

Normally I’m all for states’ rights to make laws as they see fit, but this is one area that clearly needs stronger “guidance” from the feds so this terrible inconsistency isn’t making criminals out of its citizenry when they cross state lines.

04fxts:

Thank you sir...

I am from Illinois and I do know the law. If you have a CCW from your home state you may carry concealed inside your vehicle. As soon as you step out of the vehicle you are illegal, pretty simple really. If you want you may place the loaded firearm inside the console or glove box but I would never place it where you have insurance or registration papers. If you leave it in the vehicle it must be secured by locking inside a case or locking the vehicle. If you want to take the firearm with you it must be unloaded and inside a case before you exit the vehicle.
I know there is no logic to any of this but the law was not intended to be logical or keep people safe. This was passed because the federal court of appeals told the state they could not no longer make carrying outside the home illegal. Jim.

Nothing to do with guns but,,, in my area of MN these days you would have to call the police and report the accident right away. There was a time when you could just exchange information on the side of the road but, these days you have to call it in. If no one is injured, if it was a minor accident, and if the police are busy doing something else (which is quite rare) they may not even show up at the accident site. But, you still have to call it in.

Not so much as volunteered but asked by the LEO.

That's not what I have read. In each case, it was reported that the person was stopped or in an accident and told the officer that they were in possession of a loaded gun. I have seen no report that the officer questioned them about a gun or requested a "database search".

For those with iPhones and maybe similar app for other smart phones, I find an app called CCW is very good, it is updated often. It costs $1.99 but you have the latest in your pocket then.

toedtoes wrote:
It appears that in cases mentioned above the persons VOLUNTEERED that they had a gun in their possession - they were not searched in a database first. And that carrying a loaded gun was in violation of NJ's law requiring all guns to be unloaded and locked in a trunk.

Seems there are three ways to handle this:

1. Follow the rules of the state you are in - if the law says put the unloaded gun in the locked trunk, then put the unloaded gun in the locked truck;

2. Do as you want, don't volunteer information, and accept the consequences for your actions if it goes wrong (e.g., go ahead and carry and if you get caught and arrested, then accept that you violated the laws of the state/country and take the repercussions).

3. Avoid all the amazing places that don't meet your standards.

Not so much as volunteered but asked by the LEO.

I choose number 3. Yes, that's my final answer.
In my younger years, number 2 worked, too.
I try hard to follow the local laws. Hence, I gas up in IN and travel straight through, do not stop, do not get out of the vehicle in IL when traveling west to visit family in UT.

It appears that in cases mentioned above the persons VOLUNTEERED that they had a gun in their possession - they were not searched in a database first. And that carrying a loaded gun was in violation of NJ's law requiring all guns to be unloaded and locked in a trunk.

Seems there are three ways to handle this:

1. Follow the rules of the state you are in - if the law says put the unloaded gun in the locked trunk, then put the unloaded gun in the locked truck;

2. Do as you want, don't volunteer information, and accept the consequences for your actions if it goes wrong (e.g., go ahead and carry and if you get caught and arrested, then accept that you violated the laws of the state/country and take the repercussions).

3. Avoid all the amazing places that don't meet your standards.