California Firearm Compliance

Cummins12V98 wrote:

rhagfo wrote:
Well not to take this off track, BUT in Oregon there is a bill being introduced to limit purchase of ammo to 20 rounds per month!:S

We took a week long (Four Day) firearms class near Las Vegas, the recommended number of rounds per person was 1,200. There were four of us traveling there and had about 6,000 rounds of ammo with us for the class, and some possible extra shooting time.

Something else in common! We have taken courses there two times and are scheduled to go again in March and April.

I actually need to remove my ammo from my basement as the front rams can not lift the RV any longer.

Would you be referring to "Iggy's place" just outside of Harumph?
Have been a member for 8 years or so... wish he would get that darn RV park built!

spoon059 wrote:

Dave H M wrote:
I don't want to derail this thread. However a lot of mentioning about mags with capacity of 10 rounds or less.

How does this apply to guns like my ole Smith 9mm that came with 15 round standard double stack mag?

It depends upon how the statute is worded. Some states say that a 15 round mag is fine, but cannot be loaded with more than 10 rounds. Other states (like NY) say that you can only carry a weapon that carries 7 rounds or less... so if you have 7 rounds in an 8 round mag you are in violation.

You would have to physically block the SW mag so that it can only physically hold the maximum amount of rounds.

OP, you need to research each individual state that you wish to enter with a weapon. Every state is different. Maryland (with Baltimore City, one of the highest per capita murder rates in the free world...) has VERY strict guns laws (which do nothing to stop the criminals...). We do not accept any other states concealed or open carry permits. You have to be LEO, retired LEO or one of the very few with a Maryland carry permit.

NY got rid of the seven round rule. Ten round magazines are legal and you can carry the full ten rounds in the magazine.

Think, when was the last time a cop pulled you over. Unless you look like a gang-banger or some counter-culture waco or smell like pot, I wouldn't worry about being found out for being CCW. Better to be judged by 12 than be carried by 6.

Not necessarily a California question, but I wanted to know if this requirement was common in other states and if you comply.

North Carolina automatically recognizes concealed carry permits issued in any other state. To possess a concealed handgun in North Carolina (regardless of your home state), in addition to the usual prohibitions and requirements you must:

1. Disclose the fact that you have a valid concealed handgun permit when you are approached or addressed by any law enforcement officer in North Carolina.

2. If carrying, inform the officer that you are in possession of a concealed handgun.

I generally agree with keeping communication with LEOs to a minimum, but other states probably know if I have a permit and I would not want my silence to lead to a violation.

FYI in CA it's not so simple as going to a 10 round Mag in CA for a AR-15. Look it up. LOTS of smoke n mirrors.

rhagfo wrote:
Well not to take this off track, BUT in Oregon there is a bill being introduced to limit purchase of ammo to 20 rounds per month!:S

We took a week long (Four Day) firearms class near Las Vegas, the recommended number of rounds per person was 1,200. There were four of us traveling there and had about 6,000 rounds of ammo with us for the class, and some possible extra shooting time.

Something else in common! We have taken courses there two times and are scheduled to go again in March and April.

I actually need to remove my ammo from my basement as the front rams can not lift the RV any longer.

Dave H M wrote:
I don't want to derail this thread. However a lot of mentioning about mags with capacity of 10 rounds or less.

How does this apply to guns like my ole Smith 9mm that came with 15 round standard double stack mag?

You folks set me straight. The 10 round mags are even on ebay. :S Thanks

wanderingaimlessly wrote:
States which make their laws overly restrictive and do not accept rules that are considered standard norms in most other states choose to make folks unwelcome. I agree to their desires and avoid them.

In general you can find most of their non standard laws in general web searches. The magazine ban and some others are fairly recent.

Also organizations like USCCA offer reciprocity maps concerning states laws.
The safest thing is not to go there. They cant arrest you if you dont go there.

This is the tactic we use and will continue to use as I don't expect the situation to change in my lifetime.

There is still a federal statue called "Peaceable Transit" that basically said that if you are traveling any place, and what ever you are carrying is legal for you to own and carried in safe manor, you were in the clear. Unfortunately, activist judges in many anti-freedom states have found against this traditional statue.

I used to compete all over the place, but with these restrictions, it is no longer possible. Because none of the pieces I carry will comply with any of these states and the ammunition quantities allowed is less than I would carry for practice and a match, I have no choice but to not travel though those states. This has deigned several matches in recent years and has also caused me to cancel a Pacific Coast Road tour that was to end at a match in PNW.

I have plans to go to the Maritimes this next year. It will be less fun as I will have to drive past a match that I have never missed before. I am also considering missing New York, New Jersey and Massataxes and going through Canada. The fuel will cost more, but the laws are way less scary.

Matt

Well not to take this off track, BUT in Oregon there is a bill being introduced to limit purchase of ammo to 20 rounds per month!:S

We took a week long (Four Day) firearms class near Las Vegas, the recommended number of rounds per person was 1,200. There were four of us traveling there and had about 6,000 rounds of ammo with us for the class, and some possible extra shooting time.

CA is 10 round MAX. Get the proper mag for your gun if you are in public with it.