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Desert_Captain
Explorer III
Sep 15, 2022

Closer to a head on then you ever want to be...

We were northbound on Highway 89 between Flagstaff and Page Arizona last Sunday morning. While this stretch of 89 is pretty good road it alternates between 2 and 3 lanes. About 25 miles south of Page southbound it was two lanes with just a double yellow line separating them from the northbound traffic.

Southbound traffic was fairly heavy as we ascended a long grade. I was doing 63 but the southbound sound traffic looked to be traveling at closer to 70+. Suddenly as a large class A approached in his left lane I briefly thought his toad had come loose but quickly realized it was a small mini van attempting to pass over the double yellow lines and completely filling my lane. :E

There was only about 3' of paved shoulder which quickly dropped off steeply so my options and time remaining were disappearing fast. I jammed on my brakes and thankfully the ABS did it's job seriously slowing my 24' Class C {I was towing a 2,500# 10' Cargo trailer} with no loss of control and I was able to move right to the edge of the shoulder still traveling at more than 40 mph.

Neither the Class A or the moron in the mini van slowed and actually it looked like a death race to see who could get us all killed first. The minivan squeaked by the Class A and started moving back across the double yellows nearly hitting the motorhome and missing my drivers side mirror by less than a foot. Had we all collided another 6 to10 southbound cars would probably have been involved. It all took place in matter of mere seconds and my hugging the edge of the shoulder while braking hard were the ONLY things that keep us and probably several others from being killed. A few inches more to the right and we would have rolled our rig right off of the highway.

Once we got out heart rates back undef 100 my bride and I continued on for nearly 5 minutes before even speaking and what we had to say is not fit to print. What in the heck is wrong with people? :h While the mini van was the scariest driver I have ever encountered and probably impaired beyond being terminally stupid the Class A driver could have diffused the situation by simply getting on his brakes and letting the idiot squeeze in... why kill us???

:M:M:M

34 Replies

  • I know someone traveling to work on a 2 lane 65MPH road with 3 cars behind her. A car started to pull out behind an oncoming semi and then pulled back in. Then the car suddenly pulled out again and crossed in front of friends car with only a few feet to spare, continued on to friends right shoulder (no lane) kept going on the friends shoulder and the 3 cars behind friend and kept going passing the semi.

    That would have been a serious 5 car accident plus the semi!
  • Maybe I'm not fully understanding:
    - OP is NB climbing a grade with a single NB lane.
    - Class A is SB (in the center lane?)
    - Minivan is SB and is passing in the NB lane.

    Was there someone in the SB right lane forcing SB traffic to run 3 wide?
    How steep was the grade and in which direction?
    Were there other SB vehicles in close proximity?

    Quite possible, the Class A wasn't expecting or watching for a crazy to cross the double yellow. If there was another RV behind, was the Class A worried that RV behind couldn't stop?

    With hindsight it may have been better if the Class A hit the brakes but when being passed, the appropriate response is to hold a steady speed. If the Class A had hit the brakes and at the same time the minivan decided he didn't have enough room to pass and hit his brakes, the minivan could have been trapped in the oncoming lane. By holding a steady speed, you allow the passing vehicle to react without having to worry about what you are going to do.

    If I'm understanding the situation, the blame is squarely on the minivan. No need to drag others in.
  • As I read the news reports about road wrecks and/or fatalities I am amazed at the number of intoxicated people out on the roads.
    I don't know the answer, but the rest of us are at their mercy.
  • Because unfortunately there are many people who don't give a rats arse about anybody else.

    It's also possible that the MH driver was talking to the co pilot and not even aware of the minivan coming up on the side.

    Either way glad you managed to escape unscathed to be able to RV another day.