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- holstein13Explorer
westernrvparkowner wrote:
Westernrvparkowner, you may know a lot about RV parks, but it doesn't sound like you know much, if anything, about electric cars. For example, did you know that the Tesla will only draw 40 amps off of a 50 amp outlet? That's right, the Tesla is smart enough to understand the code and will only draw the maximum rated energy from the 50 amp outlet which is 40 amps continuous. It will vary the power throughout the cycle so 40 amps will be the max.
Campgrounds may not be a good choice to recharge Teslas and the like. Campground pedestals and their wiring circuits (and the NEC specifications for those wiring demands) were determined and created by the demands of RVs using those pedestals. The high electrical needs of those rechargers would completely throw those demand computations out the window. Add a couple of rechargers to a loop of campground pedestals being used by RVs and you will likely either trip the main breakers or add to the voltage drop on the loop. This may either greatly inconvenience all the other RVs on that loop or, in the case of voltage drop, damage the components of those RVs.
We are not vehicle refueling stops, we are RV parks. We do not allow recharging of electrical vehicles under any circumstances. We do not have the infrastructure to recharge electric vehicles.
We will not be installing public recharging stations for the simple reason that we don't want to have to entertain someone who is not a guest for the 30 minutes to an hour it would take to recharge their batteries. Those people would be wanting to either use the park's other facilities during that time or maybe just wander around the park, creating a security concern for all the other guests. Plus it has been our very limited experience (very small, statistically invalid sample to be sure) that people wanting to recharge their batteries are not really interested in paying for the service. Had one guy offer us $5.00 in exchange for the three hours it was going to take him to recharge his Tesla. Not interested in that deal at all.
Furthermore, the Tesla owner has the option to dial that down to any setting that's appropriate to protect your sensitive, possibly outdated circuits. But they could not dial them up.
To be completely frank with you, if you do not have the infrastructure to recharge electric vehicles, your circuits are really not up to the task of running large rigs with three air conditioners, washer and dryers, electric water heaters, dishwashers, etc. either.
Why do you assume that these people will want to be entertained as "not a guest?" Why can't they rent a spot from you? How much power do you think a Tesla could even consume? The largest battery pack is 90 KW. Even if it was completely drained and they charged it full that's only 90 KW of power. At 15 cents per kilowatt that would only cost you $13.50. Even if the charging process is only 90% efficient that's still only $14.80 max. But you probably aren't paying that much for power and no Tesla will ever come in completely drained. The guy who wanted to offer you $5.00 for three hours was giving you a decent deal. How much power do you think he could possibly draw in three hours? You could have charged him $10.00 and made everyone happy.
The times are changing and that means more and more power usage from your circuits. You can adapt with the times or choose to offer substandard service to the increasing power demands of your customers. - John___AngelaExplorer
smkettner wrote:
I can't wait to pull a fith wheel with something like this.
I would want a smaller version.
https://nikolamotor.com/one
:) - I can't wait to pull a fith wheel with something like this.
I would want a smaller version.
https://nikolamotor.com/one - free_radicalExplorer
Grit dog wrote:
tpi wrote:
cause you'd have to drink heavily on a X country rv trip that you could bang out a whopping 125mi/day.
Why would that be stressful? If you have the time to spend, it sounds great to me!
I guess it's not until the battery runs out 150clicks east of Brandon and the nearest "town" is a John Deere combine dealer. Or when winter is settin in and he's only halfway back home with another 2weeks to go to make that last 1500mi...
In all serious ness, like I said in an earlier post, it's a very novel concept. Not practical, but novel.
Agree,
pure ev is ok in town,for long distance driving hybrid EV would be best
https://youtu.be/hn_osO8bt6U - free_radicalExplorer
Cummins12V98 wrote:
So what do they do to charge the batteries along the way?
That would be my concern also,it may be bit early doing such trip at this time however ev charging should improve in the future in all provinces..
A Montreal-based company is launching a multi-province network for recharging electric vehicles.
http://www.ctvnews.ca/autos/addenergie-launches-2-000-station-electric-vehicle-charging-network-in-5-provinces-1.2946589 - free_radicalExplorer
Gdetrailer wrote:
tdiller wrote:
Only two things run on batteries...
Golf carts and
Toys.
Until a vehicle can go 3-400 miles on a charge and refill/recharge in five minutes and do it again and again all day it'll never sit in my garage.
X2
While battery tech has improved SLIGHTLY over the years it still is very weak compared to gas or diesel for distance, cost to own, maintenance and refueling.
Not to mention, the notion that electric vehicles are a "clean" mode of transportation is BS..
There IS far more "E" waste generated in the building of EV batteries..
Not to mention adding overhead to already weak electric grid..
Then there is the mere fact of the "pollution" of supposed lack of..
There IS NO FREE LUNCH, energy is energy, it is dirty no matter how far away it is generated..
Really?
How dirty is sun power?
http://shrinkthatfootprint.com/electric-cars-green
Youre very mistaken if you think gas or diesel is cheaper cleaner or more efficient
EV beats dirty fuel in every category..especialy cost per mile driven..
Then there is also the cost and inviromental impact of gasoline production from tar sands and fracking etc..
EV are better and here to stay
http://www.ucsusa.org/clean-vehicles/electric-vehicles/life-cycle-ev-emissions#.V2NyQegpDxA - fj12ryderExplorer III^^^^^^^^And 50 years ago flying cars were going to be the future. Just read Popular Mechanics. :)
And Elio motors has 50,000 reservations for their cars. So what. Like George Carlin said: "Nail two things together that have never been nailed together before and some schmuck will buy it". - free_radicalExplorer
westend wrote:
What would happen in the electric vehicle market if the batteries could be exchanged easily?
Shai Agazzi is stating the "refueling" process would take less time than filling your tank.
Guess what Tesla already can do that too
https://youtu.be/H5V0vL3nnHY - free_radicalExplorer
fj12ryder wrote:
^^^^^^^^Tesla has been at it since 2003, doesn't look like the price has dropped much in 13 years.
Course it did take them 5 years to make their first car, so they've really only been at it for 8 years. :)
Tesla received 400.000 orders with 1000$ deposit on their model 3 which is over a year away from production..
Big 3 car makers can only dream about being so popular.. :)
Future is electric even VW is going to make most of their cars electric by 2020 - Cummins12V98Explorer III"Just want to confirm. You feel you can breath the air out of your exhaust pipe? Did I read that right?? "
Yes that is correct with a little disclaimer. I would want it at around 70 degrees or so, may be a little hot at the end of a long grade.
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