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JJBIRISH
Jan 02, 2014Explorer
So steering only tires are a poor quality because they are made for the steering position only… good grief, charley Brown…
I guess the purpose of the thread is to try to prove that weight is the difference, and the proof of a tires quality…
It’s like saying I have a 5 lb. bag of apples that only weighs 4.44 pounds on the scale and I have a 5 lb. bag of oranges that weighs 4.92 pounds…
It’s obvious the oranges are better for you than the apples are…
Tire weight is part bulk, part material selection and/or the build processes used… there are way too many variables that we aren’t even privileged to, to equate weight alone as evidence of quality…
Recipes of chemical or rubber compounding are one of the most closely guarded secrets of the tire industry… these compounding can be developed to be lighter or heavier to achieve a higher quality for a given purpose…
Cap ply’s might be made from single yarn or twisted cords… the single yarns can be cheaper, lighter, and thinner , but they can also be higher quality, improve heat dissipation, and reduce belt edge separation… the beading can be built differently in one tire from another… the amount of and the quality of the inner innerlinner material, more things than we could ever know…
Weight alone is evidence of nothing without explanation of the difference…
Even tires from the same mfg. might have different LT or ST model tires of different weights even in the same size and LR and it doesn’t equate to Quality…
For example from the 2012 Carlisle catalog to keep it apples to apples, that list the radial trail RH 205x75x14 LR C with a load rating of 1760 listed at 25.9 pounds…
Yet from the same catologe Carlisle 215x75x14 LR C with a load rating of 1870 listed at 25.8 pounds… the tire with the higher load capacity has a lower weight…
The 225x75x15 LR C is bigger and weighs more than the 205x75x15 LR D but both have the same rated carrying capacity… citing and using weight alone for different tires is misleading at best…
We outsiders don’t have enough information to know or say what the weight alone means…
Of the two tires mentioned the LT has a wider section width, tread width, and a 1 inch larger diameter…
All we know is they are two different tires…
I guess the purpose of the thread is to try to prove that weight is the difference, and the proof of a tires quality…
It’s like saying I have a 5 lb. bag of apples that only weighs 4.44 pounds on the scale and I have a 5 lb. bag of oranges that weighs 4.92 pounds…
It’s obvious the oranges are better for you than the apples are…
Tire weight is part bulk, part material selection and/or the build processes used… there are way too many variables that we aren’t even privileged to, to equate weight alone as evidence of quality…
Recipes of chemical or rubber compounding are one of the most closely guarded secrets of the tire industry… these compounding can be developed to be lighter or heavier to achieve a higher quality for a given purpose…
Cap ply’s might be made from single yarn or twisted cords… the single yarns can be cheaper, lighter, and thinner , but they can also be higher quality, improve heat dissipation, and reduce belt edge separation… the beading can be built differently in one tire from another… the amount of and the quality of the inner innerlinner material, more things than we could ever know…
Weight alone is evidence of nothing without explanation of the difference…
Even tires from the same mfg. might have different LT or ST model tires of different weights even in the same size and LR and it doesn’t equate to Quality…
For example from the 2012 Carlisle catalog to keep it apples to apples, that list the radial trail RH 205x75x14 LR C with a load rating of 1760 listed at 25.9 pounds…
Yet from the same catologe Carlisle 215x75x14 LR C with a load rating of 1870 listed at 25.8 pounds… the tire with the higher load capacity has a lower weight…
The 225x75x15 LR C is bigger and weighs more than the 205x75x15 LR D but both have the same rated carrying capacity… citing and using weight alone for different tires is misleading at best…
We outsiders don’t have enough information to know or say what the weight alone means…
Of the two tires mentioned the LT has a wider section width, tread width, and a 1 inch larger diameter…
All we know is they are two different tires…
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