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- These RV predators are very prevalent in big winter snowbird areas, especially in the Southwest US. They take advantage of seniors in those areas. Quite a few disappear and law enforcement never finds them.
- In order to garnish wages, they have to have a bonified job. Then, unbelievable as it may sound, it's the victim's responsibility to ensure the criminals place of employment knows about the judgment. The victim never tells their employers about the garnishments or court settlements. That's when the court's intervene, which begins with the victim trying to figure out where the criminal is now employed. Wanna guess how difficult THAT is these days? It sucks for sure! And every court intervention costs the victim more money for filings, and court costs and such. After a while, it just isn't worth it any more.
missnmountains wrote:
WTP-GC wrote:
Lots of stupid people in that article. In fact, the only sensible person mentioned in that whole thing is the RV dealer's attorney. Pay them back after spending years in prison and living a court-supervised life...what kind of idiots are these people??? Folks threatening to commit suicide over being defrauded for $28K. What a bunch of ****. I hope the guy spends a minimal amount of time in prison and gets to the restitution efforts quickly. Who in the world would advocate for a lengthy prison sentence, all things considered??
Unfortunately, with that logic, they should let out people like Bernie Madoff so that he can figure out how to pay back 100's of millions.
Highly Unlikely.
Ken
Apples and oranges.
Bernie ruined lives on a massive scale. This guy defrauded people on a local level who were trying to fund a hobby. All crimes are subject to the degree which it was committed. That's why some murders get life and others get a few years.fulltimedaniel wrote:
But the real way to get him to pay is bring a CIVIL case against him and take his house and car, 401k, insurance holdings etc. It can be done with the right lawyer.
Exactly. Levy a civil judgement against him and everything he does for the rest of his life involving money will be subject to the terms of the judgement until the debt is satisfied. Wages can be garnished, tax refunds withheld, etc.
Locking the guy up is one of the worst things you can do. In there, he can't make restitution payments and will be a burden on all tax-payers. So those who are the victims of fraud are now subject to greater monetary injustice. What a great system!
And BTW, who in their right mind would be making payments on 2 vehicles/RV's that they don't have a title (or right to title) for? Who are they paying? And what legal reasoning compels them to make the payment? In the auto world, without a title nothing exists.WTP-GC wrote:
Lots of stupid people in that article. In fact, the only sensible person mentioned in that whole thing is the RV dealer's attorney. Pay them back after spending years in prison and living a court-supervised life...what kind of idiots are these people??? Folks threatening to commit suicide over being defrauded for $28K. What a bunch of ****. I hope the guy spends a minimal amount of time in prison and gets to the restitution efforts quickly. Who in the world would advocate for a lengthy prison sentence, all things considered??
Unfortunately, with that logic, they should let out people like Bernie Madoff so that he can figure out how to pay back 100's of millions.
Highly Unlikely.
Ken- Wrong quote
- My sympathy for the victims ends where their gullibility, stupidity and credulousness begins.
If even ONE of them had done the simple straight forward due diligence this kind of transaction deserves probably none of this would have happened.
I am sorry but I think the so-called "victims" are mostly victims of self inflicted harm.
The sentence is just as crazy. 7 years in jail. No way to pay back the money. And the court does have the ability to force him to pay. But the real way to get him to pay is bring a CIVIL case against him and take his house and car, 401k, insurance holdings etc. It can be done with the right lawyer. - Never know when someone might pay you. I filed a judgement on a tenant once through small claims court. Never expected payment. About 3 years later got a check in the mail. His grandmother left him a house and he had to pay the judgement in order to sell it.
- This guy should be in jail.
- Happens every day, somewhere.
You do have to look at all financial transactions like someone is out to rip you off because whether it's flat out fraud or simply paying more than you should for a particular good or service, it happens daily.
Good luck to those trying to get money back. They'll likely never see a dime. Lesson learned.
