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John___Angela
Jan 06, 2017Explorer
rk911 wrote:jfkmk wrote:John & Angela wrote:jfkmk wrote:.garyemunson wrote:
For the foreseeable future, I expect the cost of the chargers will be spread out over all the customers through higher prices at the businesses that supply free charging.
I agree this is what is probably happening, but I don't necessarily agree with. Why on earth should I subsidize someone else's transportation? Why should the store treat one customer better than another because of the type of car they drive?
I remember talking with an electric car owner at a restaurant. He said he taught at a university near where I worked. Knowing it was about a 100 mile round trip, I asked if he saw any real benefit to electric due to the high mileage of the commute. He told me he got to charge his car for free at the university. Great, so I was subsidizing his commute too (it was a state school). I really don't get subsidizing others like this.
. I suppose the pretense is that an electric vehicle emits no pollution......
Perhaps, but don't forget the electricity needs to be generated somehow. Most electricity in the US is produced using coal and natural gas.
generally speaking, which process consumes more energy...producing the average gasoline powered vehicle or the average all-electric powered vehicle? anyone?
Tough question as there are a lot of factors involved. Most of it has to do with where it is produced. If it is produced in countries that get a lot of power from "clean power" sources then the EV winds hands down through its whole life cycle. It gets cloudier if produced in countries with less diversified and modern power grids like the US. A Montana EV production would be considerably less "clean" than a great lakes production getting power from Hydro facilities from Canada. This is why the Nevada Gigaplant Tesla Production will be way up there on the "clean" scale as eventually all the power will come from solar, wind and thermal...and that eventually is a very short time away...read a couple of years.
We have two Fully electric vehicle. One built in Germany (Mercedes Smart ED) which is fed by a local grid with a high clean power content. Other Electric vehicle is built by a Japanese company but in a US factory in Tennessee (nissan). It has less of a clean make up. It is tough to measure but there are stats on the net if you look. Electric vehicles tend to be smaller than many of the SUV's found in the North American market so generally they are a "cleaner production as they use a lot less materials. Obviously this changes country to country and region to region.
Like I say. I'm not an expert, just an enthusiast.
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