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JaxDad wrote:
sempka wrote:
Driver training in Germany is much stricter and license test is significantly harder than in the US.
In most of Europe they also handle D/L renewals very differently than they do in North America.
Depending on your age and driving record when your 5 year license is up you go into the testing office and at a minimum, write a test, if you are a younger or older person or have demerit points on your license you will take road test. If you don’t pass, you don’t get your license renewed until you can pass it.
Their twist on fines is interesting too, in Finland for instance, most fines are based on a percentage of your income. A few years back the head of Nokia got a US$103,000 speeding ticket. Ditto, Switzerland, in 2010 a Swedish citizen got a US$962,000 ticket there.
Makes sense. A $250 speeding ticket is a deterrent and a significant hit to the pocket for the average Joe, but it's chump change to someone who paid cash for a new Ferrari.sempka wrote:
Driver training in Germany is much stricter and license test is significantly harder than in the US.
In most of Europe they also handle D/L renewals very differently than they do in North America.
Depending on your age and driving record when your 5 year license is up you go into the testing office and at a minimum, write a test, if you are a younger or older person or have demerit points on your license you will take road test. If you don’t pass, you don’t get your license renewed until you can pass it.
Their twist on fines is interesting too, in Finland for instance, most fines are based on a percentage of your income. A few years back the head of Nokia got a US$103,000 speeding ticket. Ditto, Switzerland, in 2010 a Swedish citizen got a US$962,000 ticket there.sempka wrote:
And getting a full license costs a whole lot more, and takes much longer.
Driver training in Germany is much stricter and license test is significantly harder than in the US.- Driver training in Germany is much stricter and license test is significantly harder than in the US.
JaxDad wrote:
pnichols wrote:
d3500ram wrote:
This thread has seemed to segue into a conversation on the ethics of “speed.” There are two laws in play for a person when it comes to speed within a vehicle on roads within a jurisdiction: laws of the people and laws of physics. Break excessively either one might get you judged by more than just the twelve on earth.
Public road speed has no place in America anymore (or anywhere else in the world either, IMHO, no matter what the Germans think they're getting away with).
According to the WHO (World Health Organisation) statistics, road deaths per 1 billion vehicle-kilometres looks like this;
United States - 7.3
Canada - 5.1
Germany - 4.2
So it appears that for a country that so flippantly thumbs its nose at risking life & limb, they have almost half (43%) the traffic fatalities that the US does.
Maybe it’s because they’re vastly better drivers in Europe?
The US also has the most lenient penalties for drunk driving. Coincidence? I doubt it...- Nother trip up I-5 last night from Portland to Seattle. If I wuz a state trooper, I could have written 20 tickets to left lane loafers and only 1/2 dozen to speeders (myself included)!
JaxDad wrote:
pnichols wrote:
Cloud Dancer wrote:
According to the WHO (World Health Organisation) statistics, road deaths per 1 billion vehicle-kilometres looks like this;
United States - 7.3
Canada - 5.1
Germany - 4.2
So it appears that for a country that so flippantly thumbs its nose at risking life & limb, they have almost half (43%) the traffic fatalities that the US does.
Maybe it’s because they’re vastly better drivers in Europe?
Yep ... leave it up to those lower highway vehicle densities to slash road deaths per 1 billion vehicles ... or is it the higher Canadian and German driver IQ averages that somehow allow drivers there to violate the laws of vehicle physics for awhile?
Isn't there a saying that goes something like this?: "Some drivers can speed all of the time, and all drivers can speed some of the time, but all drivers can't speed all of the time.” :h
Ummmm...... you DO know that a) WAY more people are killed OFF highway, than on, and, b) that the statistic quoted was per ‘billion vehicle x kilometres’ which equalizes all of that anyways?
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Someone is giving me too much credit. I did NOT post the above statistics.- Left lane for passing. This is something cops tend to use common sense about. Truck rigs and probably camper trailers will be under tighter scrutiny. For a car, as long as its moving past vehicles on the right it can be there all the way,or if fastest one around. If blocking other traffic wanting to go faster then could be a ticket.
Trailered vehicles should pass then move back over asap.
In many states is illegal to pass on the right, so some people will never go around on the right, even in states with no such law.
Some spots no vehicle over 6 wheels can ever be in left lane, but there are usually 3 or more lanes.
I'm glad to be at 6 wheels this year and not 8. Cummins12V98 wrote:
dodge guy wrote:
Cummins12V98 wrote:
fj12ryder wrote:
rk911 wrote:
Being proud of it? Where did that come from? I like to drive fast when I can do so safely. And fast is over 100 mph. If you say you like to fish, are you proud of it, or just a statement of fact? My statement was just that, not proud or ashamed, it just is.fj12ryder wrote:
...I suppose I'll become a bit more sensible as I get older, but at only 69 years old, cruising at 100+ is still a blast. Just wave as I go by.
you're insane for driving that fast. nothing to be proud of.
"I'm not insane, my mother had me tested" Sheldon Cooper :)
My 2011 DRW driving on I-10 AZ outside of Quartzite. AMAZING smooth solid ride, wife had no idea of the speed. No one around but us and sage brush!
Wow! I can't believe the trailer tires held up! Very impressed!!!
No trailer, but in 75+ States I do tow at 75.
So do I! If its safe to do so!pnichols wrote:
MFL wrote:
BTW...it is 12 degrees here, snowing/blowing, will continue into the night with possible wind gusts over 50 mph. I enjoy the forum entertainment, and have learned some things I did not know.
Jerry ... from what I've been reading about the temperatures coming this upcoming week ... you ain't seen nothin' yet.
BTW and FWIW, I wonder what the highest speed ever attained is while driving in the fast lane during a snow blizzard while towing?
For sure...steady falling temps each day, with day time highs still below 0! Tues night, -35 F, Wed high of -18, going to be a tough week! :E
I've towed enclosed sled trailers, current one 7x23, actual 26' from the Midwest to Idaho, Montana, Wyoming, and the Black Hills, many a time. I've towed in the very worst weather possible, and still be able to go in 4x4, until roads, including the interstate were closed. I did use the fast lane at times, due to the very light other traffic moving about 20 mph on glare ice.
Jerry
