F250 w/ 12.5k FW

2015 Ford Tow Guide PDF

Depending on his load; he's at or above the GVWR for that truck. Someone will come along and say he's ok on his rear axle so it's OK.

Bottom line it's your friends truck and problem if he does not want to listen. I have a couple of friends that I politely asked how their numbers looked. They feed me a story and obviously did not want to discus it. If they don't want to listen, let it go. It's their responsibility.

scootsk wrote:
It's a 2014 f250 crew cab 4x4 shortbed powerstroke. I told him his truck could pull a house but the pin weight is very high and may exceed his payload.

4X4 and crewcab are some very heavy options for the F-250.

The cargo rating on that one is only 1800 pounds. Add a 150 pound hitch and 250 pounds of passengers, you will be well over the GVWR for the truck.

The F-350 crewcab SWB and SRW will have a 11,200 GVWR and cargo rating near 3,000 pounds. Still a little light when you are looking at towing a fifth wheel with a 2,200 pound dry weight and 2,500 pound +/- pin weight when towing. Add some firewood, more passengers, and such, and it is easy to use up all of the F-350's cargo rating too. . .

Good luck!

Fred.

With today's diesel wars amongst the Big Three, pulling the load will likely not be the issue. Once you get it rolling, you're going to have to turn the corners and bring 23,000 pounds to a stop safely. Tow ratings take brakes, suspension and drive train into account and come up with a certified towing capacity. Exceed it at your own risk. Unfortunately, people who choose to ignore these ratings don't just put themselves at risk.

Private party sale. Both are newbees

The problem was that more than likely the salesman told him it would not be a problem since he had a diesel.

Ken

It's a 2014 f250 crew cab 4x4 shortbed powerstroke. I told him his truck could pull a house but the pin weight is very high and may exceed his payload.

Check this link.

http://www.fleet.ford.com/towing-guides/

Click on the 2014 towing guide, and it will show the GCVWR for the F-250 diesel. Is it crewcab, supercab or the rare regular cab?

I would guess supercab, and look up the cargo rating on page 10 - it can carry about 2,100 pounds before going over the GVWR.

Then look up the GCVWR on page 16, it can have a combined weight of about 23,500 pounds. (same weight with either axle ratio) Take away the 8,000 pound curb weight (with a couple of passengers) and you have a towing ability of about 15,500 pounds.

So unless he has a small family and regular cab, the truck will be over it's GVWR by a few hundred pounds. Not to much to worry about. If he does not take along water, and keeps everything that is heavy behind the trailer axles, he should be fine.

Have fun camping!

Fred.

His F250 has a 6100 RAWR. These trucks can weigh 2900-3000 lbs on the rear axle which leaves him with around 3100-3200 lb payload.
He needs to weigh the trucks front and rear axle separately so he can tell if the truck is over RAWR as its carrying all the pin weight.

Of course the F250 6.7 diesel won't have any issue pulling a 15k trailer.

He will be overloaded using the dry numbers let alone once he gets it loaded. Tell him to take 20% of the GVWR and add that to his scaled trucks weight. Then again keep your mouth shut and let him get a wake up call once he is loaded.