Got plenty of Propane ?

DiskDoctr wrote:

john&bet wrote:

DiskDoctr wrote:
Simple solution. Propane suppliers want to gouge? Switch over to CNG.

We are over $5/gal here in Western PA.

Let them make their blood money while people are trying not to die in freakishly cold weather, then they can choke on it when we remember who screwed us and we choose not to patronize them...or their industry if we can help it.

Anyone know the possibilities of converting rv appliances to CNG?

I do not believe it is as simple as you let on. At least for us out way from big cities.

It may not be, but here's the thinking on this one.

1. CNG involves compressing natural gas for storage and use similar to propane. CNG vehicles exist already, as do home compressors for people who want to use natural gas to fill their cars.

2. Converting *some* appliance from natural gas to propane and vice versa already exists. Sometimes it is only adjusting an orifice, sometimes replacing an orifice, sometimes (like the Bosch rangetop I just installed for DW) it involves changing the orifice AND the venturi tube (some stoves have adjustable air supply)

3. CNG has (less, IIRC?) BTU's per volume than propane.

4. Vapor gas burning is simply a matter of volume of gas and volume of air mixture, so theoretically, even appliances not designed for conversion *could* be converted, simply a matter of effort and/or expense of orifice/air parts.

Like most people, I really hate being screwed. IF there is a practical way to get out from under the unscrupulous thumbs of gougers, I am all for it.

As I said, a lot of work was done in the past in an attempt to make CNG compete with propane, but propane was so cheap. Now it is not.

Maybe time to dust off the innovations?

Nothing would please me more to see someone who gouges lose not only their advantage, but their entire market. :D

1. That's fine, IF you have natural gas to your residence. We don't, and the nearest gas line is about 5 miles away.

2. True, but without the gas, useless.

3. See #2.

4. Again, see #2

"Like most people, I really hate being screwed. IF there is a practical way to get out from under the unscrupulous thumbs of gougers, I am all for it."

Of course, low supply and high demand, and the difficulty and cost of transport has nothing to do with it, it is all those nasty gougers, right?