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- I have seen loads of railcars of propane recently. We are definitely moving it.
- We would grow the same amount of corn anyway. What else would you have us grow? And, you don't eat field corn. Animals eat it but, people don't so you kinda have a point but, not a very good one. All the ethanol did was allow us poor struggling farmers to have a few good years so we could purchases some new equipment. Which by the way is made in the USA and it was good for the local community when we have money to spend on main street. If it wasn't for the agriculture part of our economy doing well during the last great recession we all would have been a lot worse off. Oh, and by the way the price of corn now is lower then it has been in over 20 years and the farm economy is slipping slowly back into a recession. If that happens it might just drag all of you down too. Something to think about.
Have a nice Day. Lynnmor wrote:
A major reason for the propane shortage is that so much of it was used this year for corn drying for the production of ethanol. Yes, everyone is paying for this nonsense. Don't expect the news media to say much about this.
No no no no no. Yes we did a lot of corn drying but, it has to be done ethanol or not. Wet corn will not keep it gets moldy, sticky, and ends up smelling like stale beer. When we have a season like the last one when always have to dry the corn.Chris Bryant wrote:
Lynnmor wrote:
A major reason for the propane shortage is that so much of it was used this year for corn drying for the production of ethanol. Yes, everyone is paying for this nonsense. Don't expect the news media to say much about this.
Umm, ethanol production has nothing to do with it. Harvested corn must be dried no matter what it will be used for.
Yes but we produce more corn now then ever cause we have this ethanol******shoved down our throats. Were burning our food supply, its insane! If we didnt have the ethanol******we wouldnt grow as much corn therfore wouldnt use more propane.ol Bombero-JC wrote:
peaches&cream wrote:
http://news.msn.com/us/us-propane-shortage-affects-millions-in-freeze
There are millions who are *not* in the "freeze", and *not* affected.
It's even been on local (So.CA) news where we are complaining about the high 40s and low 50s at night - after 70-80 daytime temps..;)
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So happy it is not "effecting" any RVers. I assume they are the "millions" not effected. They are all in the sunny south. :S- Well, here's what happens... people delay, then delay, and the next day, delay a bit more instead of filling the tank.
Then suddenly, we have a weather spike - and everyone says, "OMG, I need to get propane just in case we lose power, or can't get out."
Then everyone runs out at the same time, at the last minute, and buys it. So, the local supplies run out of stock, sorta.
Anecdotal evidence: We lived very rural in California foothills for awhile (ten years) and a retired couple with a one-wheel drive Oldsmobile, an older model, lived across the street. We lost power often during snow or wind storms and it usually took a day or two to get it back. Once, ten days in a major snowstorm. So, we'd watch the news and prepare for the weather - shopped and stockpiled. But every time, that is EVERY time, the neighbor would wait until the storm hit and muddied and slicked up the dirt road he lived on. Then he'd get all worried and head out to the store (eleven miles) and he'd get stuck on his own little dirt road, in a little pocket. Every time ... I'd always tell him, Sal, call me, I'll take you in my 4x4 (he never did get it - shop early)
Anyway, he'd call, I'd go haul him home the quarter mile with my tractor, and then take him down, and he'd buy one quart of milk and a loaf of bread and a gallon of water, and go home.
Was a strange thing with him - it was like a recording replay each time. But he was tuned into shopping at the last minute, never planning ahead when a storm was eminent.
Lots of people did it too, not just Sal. And each time it happened, maybe six or seven times over a winter, the store (a small general store) would run out of water -- every single time, Because people didn't plan, they reacted to an instant situation and depleted the local supplies. And, of course, the local weekly screamed "water shortage due to storm" for lack of other headlines ...
We got to laugh about it after awhile - because it wasn't truly a 'catastrophic event' more just a localized situation. We'd watch it rain / or snow for an hour or so, and wait for Sal's call. Lynnmor wrote:
A major reason for the propane shortage is that so much of it was used this year for corn drying for the production of ethanol. Yes, everyone is paying for this nonsense. Don't expect the news media to say much about this.
Umm, ethanol production has nothing to do with it. Harvested corn must be dried no matter what it will be used for.- A major reason for the propane shortage is that so much of it was used this year for corn drying for the production of ethanol. Yes, everyone is paying for this nonsense. Don't expect the news media to say much about this.
peaches&cream wrote:
http://news.msn.com/us/us-propane-shortage-affects-millions-in-freeze
There are millions who are *not* in the "freeze", and *not* affected.
It's even been on local (So.CA) news where we are complaining about the high 40s and low 50s at night - after 70-80 daytime temps..;)
~- They sell propane accessories too! :-)
