How many take boats with them?
Just wondering how many people bring a boat along with their RV to the campgrounds?
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dewey02, etc,
I did NOT say that "I" do not regard kayaks or canoes as being "boats"! They are a form of boat! Here is what I had said copied and pasted: "This is why most people really don't think of the small and/or flimsy type crafts are really boats in a normal sense."
Nit picking and or shooting the messenger while not understanding the message really gets you absolutely nowhere!
Most people think of them as "personal watercraft" and nothing more just like jet skis are but are unpowered and rely on the occupant or occupants for propelling.
We have owned all of these types and large cabin cruisers and many sailboats including a 34' Catalina, except no Porta Boat brand watercraft and certainly know the difference.
Yes, a Porta Boat is a boat however must be used in waters in is capable of being safe in. Often, one finds that having a watercraft fail when in deep larger body of water is in a sense like being in an aircraft that failed as you can't simply walk to safety. Everyone has their own opinion and so be it!
Being in Lake Michigan in a kayak with having large wave is so much different than going down a violent white water river as in the river you are going with the water flow and in the rapids for a just a time span until you are past the violent section as we have done it hundreds of times. On a lake with big waves, they are coming AT you and if you decide to go between them sideways you'll be doing the rolly pully about every 7-11 seconds and no time to change the kayaks direction. Maybe go with the waves? Very bad mistake as going with them you zip down the front of the wave nd bury the bow of the boat underwater and you'll turn right or left and broach and flip over only to be followed by the next wave a few seconds later and over you go again before you even have a chance to right yourself. Now, just repeat this over and over for hours and see what happens. Got to love the talk big dudes that until it happens to you and I'll bet you'll change your tune if you should even survive! Many kayaks recovered from flipping and drownings on big waters are busted apart plastic parts or in pieces washed up on the beach. We see it several times every year here alone. A canoe fills very easily and quickly and rolls and where will it's passengers be?
Here's the latest full year numbers report for drownings and rescues on just Lake Michigan alone for 2015 and so many of those were the fearless dudes that were in kayaks and think they are invincible. 82 had drown and 243 were rescued in 2015 alone and by far most all of them were only between June and October, less than 1/2 half the calendar year. Doesn't include any of the over 11,000 inland lakes or more than 80,000 miles of rivers and streams either in Michigan or the other 4 Great Lakes or Great Lakes states. More than 30,000 humans that have been identified by name have drown just from boats on the Great Lakes alone and including the unidentified but have recovered remains or not have the numbers much closer to 60,000 humans. Only recently has DNA been used to identify. Happens yearly in many other states or regions of the USA also, not just the Great Lakes Region.
Be stupid or do stupid things and/or have inadequate watercraft for the task at hand and pay the price!
That, my friend is what I'm getting at!
I did NOT say that "I" do not regard kayaks or canoes as being "boats"! They are a form of boat! Here is what I had said copied and pasted: "This is why most people really don't think of the small and/or flimsy type crafts are really boats in a normal sense."
Nit picking and or shooting the messenger while not understanding the message really gets you absolutely nowhere!
Most people think of them as "personal watercraft" and nothing more just like jet skis are but are unpowered and rely on the occupant or occupants for propelling.
We have owned all of these types and large cabin cruisers and many sailboats including a 34' Catalina, except no Porta Boat brand watercraft and certainly know the difference.
Yes, a Porta Boat is a boat however must be used in waters in is capable of being safe in. Often, one finds that having a watercraft fail when in deep larger body of water is in a sense like being in an aircraft that failed as you can't simply walk to safety. Everyone has their own opinion and so be it!
Being in Lake Michigan in a kayak with having large wave is so much different than going down a violent white water river as in the river you are going with the water flow and in the rapids for a just a time span until you are past the violent section as we have done it hundreds of times. On a lake with big waves, they are coming AT you and if you decide to go between them sideways you'll be doing the rolly pully about every 7-11 seconds and no time to change the kayaks direction. Maybe go with the waves? Very bad mistake as going with them you zip down the front of the wave nd bury the bow of the boat underwater and you'll turn right or left and broach and flip over only to be followed by the next wave a few seconds later and over you go again before you even have a chance to right yourself. Now, just repeat this over and over for hours and see what happens. Got to love the talk big dudes that until it happens to you and I'll bet you'll change your tune if you should even survive! Many kayaks recovered from flipping and drownings on big waters are busted apart plastic parts or in pieces washed up on the beach. We see it several times every year here alone. A canoe fills very easily and quickly and rolls and where will it's passengers be?
Here's the latest full year numbers report for drownings and rescues on just Lake Michigan alone for 2015 and so many of those were the fearless dudes that were in kayaks and think they are invincible. 82 had drown and 243 were rescued in 2015 alone and by far most all of them were only between June and October, less than 1/2 half the calendar year. Doesn't include any of the over 11,000 inland lakes or more than 80,000 miles of rivers and streams either in Michigan or the other 4 Great Lakes or Great Lakes states. More than 30,000 humans that have been identified by name have drown just from boats on the Great Lakes alone and including the unidentified but have recovered remains or not have the numbers much closer to 60,000 humans. Only recently has DNA been used to identify. Happens yearly in many other states or regions of the USA also, not just the Great Lakes Region.
Be stupid or do stupid things and/or have inadequate watercraft for the task at hand and pay the price!
That, my friend is what I'm getting at!
