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- fj12ryderExplorer IIIShoot, I had to look up who you were talking about.
- mich800ExplorerWhat the roads need are fewer Gladys Kravitz‘s and wanabe police. If someone is going faster than you like in the left lane and gets a speeding ticket that is on them. Not for some drivers to police and try to prevent.
- fj12ryderExplorer III"I am sorry if you happen to get behind me but....too bad."
And I am sorry if I make you nervous trying to pass you but...too bad.
Nah, I'm just kidding...I'm not really sorry. - ken56ExplorerWhat if everyone drove at the same speed on the E-way. What if everyone adhered to a safe following distance and was courteous to other drivers to let them change lanes when needed. What if....right. I am responsible for the safe operation of my vehicle at all times. I drive the speed I am comfortable with and feel is safe. I am sorry if you happen to get behind me but....too bad.
- wnjjExplorer II
pnichols wrote:
wnjj wrote:
Speed limits come from all kinds of places, some without proper engineering. The small town near me turned a major road into a 20mph school zone for over 9 blocks. The school’s completely fenced ball field touches 1/2 of a block of road frontage. When I wrote the city, I was told they didn’t have money for the engineering study (that I showed them was suggested by the state that they do) and that I could pay for one myself if I wanted.
That's one of the types of thinking where anarchy comes from .... "We don't like the restriction and/or where it came from .... so to heck with us complying with it."
Did you mean to quote someone else? Your response has nothing to do with my point. I didn't like the restriction so instead of "to hecking with it" I wrote the city to try to understand their methods as it was in direct conflict with the state DOT's recommendation for school zone design. Their response was pretty much "because we thought we should" as I predicted. My comment was directed toward yours when you said we should start respecting what the engineers do. In my example, there were NO engineers consulted and the guidelines from the state ones were ignored.
I comply with it despite it being ridiculous. It's often the site of "revenue enhancement" for the local police.
The irony is I'm more likely a hazard as I pass through there since I spend so much of my time watching the speedometer. - fj12ryderExplorer III
pnichols wrote:
I can't believe you didn't pull a tendon with a stretch like this one. :R
So .... laws should be based on "the majority rules"? This can sometimes be deadly baloney.
What about the LOP (Laws of Physics) and/or the statistics of complex systems failure rates? When I see those 75, 80, 85 MPH law breakers pass our RV (or daily driver), this is what goes through my head regarding those speed demons:
1. What if a brake assembly should freeze for whatever reason?
2. What if a tire should blow for whatever reason?
3. What if a tie rod connection should separate for whatever reason?
4. What if a drive shaft universal joint should fall apart for whatever reason?
5. What if a small oil slick on the road surface should suddenly make itself known?
6. What if an AWD component should fail for whatever reason and suddenly lock up both front wheels?
7. What if a piston rod should suddenly fly through the engine block for whatever reason?
8. What if a toad hitch should suddenly separate for whatever reason?
9. .... and so on and so on?
Would you rather have another vehicle beside or ahead of you experience 1. through 9. traveling at the law's speed limit or their driver's own frantic speed limit?
What one has been getting away for years is no proof that they're going to continue getting away with it ... and when statistical fringe LOP reality someday catches up to them would it be better that they be traveling faster or slower ... especially when they might take others around them with them on that fateful day?
My vote is for slower. - jplante4Explorer IIAround here, they call the right lane the through lane...because it's the lane you got through to get on and off the highway. I see it all the time. They get on, and regardless of whether they're going fast enough to even travel in the right lane, get immediately into the left. Left laners stand on the brakes and the horn but it means nothing. It's their road. They stay in the left lane until 200 feet before their exit and cut across 2 lanes of traffic to get off. Meanwhile 1/2 mile up the road is statey with radar pulling over drivers from CT for 10 over. Who's the biggest threat to safety?
- Turtle_n_PeepsExplorer
pnichols wrote:
So .... laws should be based on "the majority rules"? This can sometimes be deadly baloney.
What about the LOP (Laws of Physics) and/or the statistics of complex systems failure rates? When I see those 75, 80, 85 MPH law breakers pass our RV (or daily driver), this is what goes through my head regarding those speed demons:
1. What if a brake assembly should freeze for whatever reason?
2. What if a tire should blow for whatever reason?
3. What if a tie rod connection should separate for whatever reason?
4. What if a drive shaft universal joint should fall apart for whatever reason?
5. What if a small oil slick on the road surface should suddenly make itself known?
6. What if an AWD component should fail for whatever reason and suddenly lock up both front wheels?
7. What if a piston rod should suddenly fly through the engine block for whatever reason?
8. What if a toad hitch should suddenly separate for whatever reason?
9. .... and so on and so on?
Would you rather have another vehicle beside or ahead of you experience 1. through 9. traveling at the law's speed limit or their driver's own frantic speed limit?
What one has been getting away for years is no proof that they're going to continue getting away with it ... and when statistical fringe LOP reality someday catches up to them would it be better that they be traveling faster or slower ... especially when they might take others around them with them on that fateful day?
My vote is for slower.
That's quite a list! :E I have Rv'ed for over 40+ years and the only one of those things happening to me was I had one tire blow. What happened? Nothing. In fact I didn't even know anything happened except for the slight vibration in the steering wheel.
Have you ever had any of those happen to you. What about your friends? Any of your friends EVER toss a rod while towing? Ever?
As far as the laws speed limit or their driver's own frantic speed limit; I've towed at 55 (my states speed limit) and I've towed at 80 Utah's speed limit, and every thing in between. That was what the law said the safe limit to travel was so when in Utah...……………………………..:B - jdb7566Explorer
pnichols wrote:
So .... laws should be based on "the majority rules"? This can sometimes be deadly baloney.
What about the LOP (Laws of Physics) and/or the statistics of complex systems failure rates? When I see those 75, 80, 85 MPH law breakers pass our RV (or daily driver), this is what goes through my head regarding those speed demons:
1. What if a brake assembly should freeze for whatever reason?
2. What if a tire should blow for whatever reason?
3. What if a tie rod connection should separate for whatever reason?
4. What if a drive shaft universal joint should fall apart for whatever reason?
5. What if a small oil slick on the road surface should suddenly make itself known?
6. What if an AWD component should fail for whatever reason and suddenly lock up both front wheels?
7. What if a piston rod should suddenly fly through the engine block for whatever reason?
8. What if a toad hitch should suddenly separate for whatever reason?
9. .... and so on and so on?
Would you rather have another vehicle beside or ahead of you experience 1. through 9. traveling at the law's speed limit or their driver's own frantic speed limit?
What one has been getting away for years is no proof that they're going to continue getting away with it ... and when statistical fringe LOP reality someday catches up to them would it be better that they be traveling faster or slower ... especially when they might take others around them with them on that fateful day?
My vote is for slower.
What if covers a lot of things, like the zombie apocalypse. - jdb7566Explorer
Latner wrote:
Old-Biscuit wrote:
'Hero' :H
Trooper did his Job ---enforcing a Law that has been on the books since 2015
Glad lady got caught and citation issued.
But the 'Hero' part is a bit too much
I spend a lot of time on the road and can say it's not enforced enough, so yeah, he's a hero in my book. He'd probably be given a parade if he worked in Minnesota.
If it were a Minnesota Trooper, he would have passed the "offender" and been on his way.
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