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ken56 wrote:
What if everyone drove at the same speed on the E-way. What if everyone adhered to a safe following distance and was courteous to other drivers to let them change lanes when needed. What if....right. I am responsible for the safe operation of my vehicle at all times. I drive the speed I am comfortable with and feel is safe. I am sorry if you happen to get behind me but....too bad.
This is exactly why we use the 85th percentile. We are trying to get everyone going as close to the same speed as possible and this is the best way we've found to make that happen.
Likewise, staying in the right lane if you aren't passing is letting drivers change lanes when needed and passing in a predictable safe manner.
If it's an empty rural freeway, the risk of running a 55mph in a 70mph zone isn't too big of a deal. If you are in an urban area, look back and see a massive lineup behind you (even if running in the right lane), you are a danger even if you aren't technically in violation of the law.pnichols wrote:
So .... laws should be based on "the majority rules"? This can sometimes be deadly baloney.
What about the LOP (Laws of Physics) and/or the statistics of complex systems failure rates? When I see those 75, 80, 85 MPH law breakers pass our RV (or daily driver), this is what goes through my head regarding those speed demons...
What study after study finds is drivers (as a group) are very good at determining the appropriate speeds for a roadway and is supported by lower crash rates on similar roads with properly set speed limits compared to those with artificially lowered speed limits.
If you look at the design speeds for roads, they are almost always within 2-3mph of the 85 percentile speed.
I'd rather risk your brakes, hitch, and axles falling off rather than the far more likely crash due to differential speeds. The odds favor me.- Yield to Emergency Vehicles - Ohio Department of Public Safety
www.publicsafety.ohio.gov/links/HSY7757.pdf
Stationary Public Safety, Emergency, or Road Service Vehicle Displaying Flashing Lights. Always ... You must yield to the left, if possible, for all stationary public safety vehicles. Moving Public Safety Vehicles with Lights and Sirens. Traffic in ...beemerphile1 wrote:
FWIW not exactly related but many people aren't aware that emergency vehicles like an ambulance are allowed to monopolize the left lane, lights on or not. - 36 CFR 4.13 - Obstructing traffic. | US Law | LII / Legal Information ...
https://www.law.cornell.edu/cfr/text/36/4.13
36 CFR 4.13 - Obstructing traffic. eCFR ยท Authorities (U.S. ... (b) Operating a vehicle so slowly as to interfere with the normal flow of traffic. This is a list of United ...beemerphile1 wrote:
FWIW not exactly related but many people aren't aware that emergency vehicles like an ambulance are allowed to monopolize the left lane, lights on or not. - FWIW not exactly related but many people aren't aware that emergency vehicles like an ambulance are allowed to monopolize the left lane, lights on or not.
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DutchmenSport wrote:
The article says no where how fast or slow this offender was going. If the "offender" was traveling the speed limit, then this office is completely wrong. Speed limit is that THAT .... L I M I T!!!! Any lane. Now, I can see if the speed limit is 65 and the offender is traveling 40 in the "fast lane." Then yes, there is justification. But if the "offender is traveling 65, she was not wrong ... EVERYONE ELSE IS. But YOU are probably one of those who think the law doesn't mean anything either! Drive any speed you want as long as you don't get a ticket! WRONG! You are still breaking the law!
The few times I've had to drive I-465 around Indianapolis, I've been caught in a whirwind of traffic. The speed LIMIT is 55, all the way around I-465 (Indianapolis). In order to keep from getting run over, I had to travel 85 in the SLOW lane! I finally said... SCREW THIS and slowed to 55 (in the right lane), and I swear everyone zoomed by me like I was standing still. AND THE L I M I T is 55!
I feel your pain and avoid interstates as much as possible, but the worse part are those with enough hate inside to want to do harm to you just for wanting to do the right thing. I'm seeing it more often than not with crime on an alarming increase.
What difference does it make which law you are violating? One is improper lane usage and one is over the speed limit. You are just as guilty stealing a candy bar or driving off without paying for your fuel at a convenience station. Just because the candy bar is cheaper does not make it right.DutchmenSport wrote:
The article says no where how fast or slow this offender was going. If the "offender" was traveling the speed limit, then this office is completely wrong. Speed limit is that THAT .... L I M I T!!!! Any lane. Now, I can see if the speed limit is 65 and the offender is traveling 40 in the "fast lane." Then yes, there is justification. But if the "offender is traveling 65, she was not wrong ... EVERYONE ELSE IS. But YOU are probably one of those who think the law doesn't mean anything either! Drive any speed you want as long as you don't get a ticket! WRONG! You are still breaking the law!
The few times I've had to drive I-465 around Indianapolis, I've been caught in a whirwind of traffic. The speed LIMIT is 55, all the way around I-465 (Indianapolis). In order to keep from getting run over, I had to travel 85 in the SLOW lane! I finally said... SCREW THIS and slowed to 55 (in the right lane), and I swear everyone zoomed by me like I was standing still. AND THE L I M I T is 55!
I feel your pain and avoid interstates as much as possible, but the worse part are those with enough hate inside to want to do harm to you just for wanting to do the right thing. I'm seeing it more often than not with crime on an alarming increase.- Bottom line on left laners - it's the "It's all about me" people again. Lights on in the campground all night, chalk on the campsite, open frame contractor generators, it's all the same people.
Fer cryin' out loud. IT'S A HILL --- STEP ON THE GAS!!! fj12ryder wrote:
I can't believe you didn't pull a tendon with a stretch like this one.
I've come close to number 3. happening. Actually the worst vehicle thing that has happened to me was not on my small list ... a rear wheel came off when underway along with the axle connected to it. If I hadn't been going slow at the time it could have been all over.
Of course my list was not to be taken literally. The purpose of my list was to get some folks to begin to contemplate on the complexity that's going on all around them in the vehicle they're driving or riding in. The overall complexity is even more so when towing something. If certain things were to happen in those complex systems, then it's better that it happen at low(er) speeds.
We all are taking way to much for granted when traveling too fast in vehicles, IMHO.- I loved it when I had my Grand marquis because coming up on a slow moving vehicle in the left lane they would immediately pull over when they seen the outline of the front of the car. I missed that after I sold it. I now have a newer Explorer I have that back. cars are always moving over when I come up on them. And when I have the X on the hwy, well lets just say no one likes to see the front of a HD truck barreling down on them!
If you don't know how to use the roads stay off! You can`t drive in the left lane at 55-60mph when the speed limit is 65. and if the limit is 55 then stay right! that's where you belong!
