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- resmasExplorer
n7bsn wrote:
It happens, I know a guy that had his DL in Washington, his truck registered in Oregon and his trailer in Montana. He filed is Federal taxes in Alaska....his theory was "I don't know which state I want to declare as a personal residence.
When caught, Washington asked him about back-taxes on his other vehicles, Oregon and Montana asked him about back-taxes on his income and Alaska asked him about residency payment(the Alaska resident state payment from crude oil)....I'm certain it all got expensive.
Doesn't pertain to the OP's question... But the guy never should have been able to get a PFD from Alaska if he didn't have an Alaska DL. It is one of the requirements on the paperwork. He was outright lying to the state and literally stealing money. Not very honest or honorable. Hope he got fined out the wazoo. - Francesca_KnowlExplorerHey Mowermech! Do you get a commission for every out-of-Stater you bag for Montana? :B
- mowermechExplorer
blangen wrote:
mowermech wrote:
If the OP has a relative or good friend who lives in a state where it would be advantageous to title and register his RV, it might bear looking in to.
Yes, there are states who will welcome your registration with open arms... like South Dakota and Montanna. The problem you will run into is with the state who thinks you owed the registration fees/taxes to them, instead. In these economic times, States have gotten way too good at catching the hair splitters. Best advice is do it all and do it right (moving to the state you like)... or suck it up and pay your less desirable state what is due. In the end, those fees/taxes will have been less than the amount you will pay if/when you get caught trying to split hairs and not doing it properly.
Yes, there may be penalties to pay. One of them is very likely to be that you can NEVER bring your RV "home", it will have to remain out of your home state forever. Such is the penalty for trying to work the system.
By the way, MONTANA is NOT spelled "Montanna"!
Of course, Californians can avoid paying sales tax on their RVs quite simply and legally. Just buy the RV out of state, and leave it out of state for one year. Yes, documentation may be required to PROVE beyond any doubt that the RV never entered California for that year.
It CAN be done, and it IS perfectly legal! - jessjerr1831ExplorerEASY.RIDER]I'm thinking about trying to changing to a state that is more rv friendly, meaning I want to move the title/registration to a state where I could save on taxes.
Any comments would be appreciated.
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I'm sorry, but I do not understand this type of thinking at all. I am sure your home state would appreciate your tax dollars. Why buy a RV and enjoy the RV lifestyle if you can't or don't want to pay taxes in the state you live in? Everyone who RV's has a lot of money invested in their rigs. I know I do. So, why not pay taxes where you live? If you don't want to pay their taxes move to a state you can afford. You asked for comments, this is mine. Jessjerr1831. - blangenExplorer
mowermech wrote:
If the OP has a relative or good friend who lives in a state where it would be advantageous to title and register his RV, it might bear looking in to.
Yes, there are states who will welcome your registration with open arms... like South Dakota and Montana. The problem you will run into is with the state who thinks you owed the registration fees/taxes to them, instead. In these economic times, States have gotten way too good at catching the hair splitters. Best advice is do it all and do it right (moving to the state you like)... or suck it up and pay your less desirable state what is due. In the end, those fees/taxes will have been less than the amount you will pay if/when you get caught trying to split hairs and not doing it properly. - wbwoodExplorer
orfsotr wrote:
The impression I have from this OP is that he wants to continue living where he is, which I'm guessing is MO, but figure out a way to fraudulently avoid paying taxes in that state!
Sounds like it. Something to think about before you buy an rv and not willing to pay what ya gotta pay.
I simply pay half in taxes on our rv (cars and house too) than what people as close as 10 miles away pay. Simply because I'm in the county and not a city limit. Works for me. - wbwoodExplorer
monkey44 wrote:
The oddest thing about all the vehicle registration laws - at least those that tell me I MUST return and get a sticker every year ... what if we're retired and simply travel a lot. How can any state tell us we MUST return periodically.
Seems an infringement of my ability to travel as much as I wish.
For example: If we get a sticker in November ... and leave on a six months trip in June ... They would be telling me I have to return and get my sticker again, mid-way in my trip. I know, I know - some of you will say something ridiculous, like get another sticker before I leave. But that's not the point, it's the requirement that I stay put for any part of a year - it's none of their business where I am or what I'm doing or how long I'm doing it until I return to the state where my vehicle is registered ... JMHO ... M44
AND, for the sake of discussion - the state really doesn't care about my truck or where it is - they want the money, that's all there is to it.
Having an rv is not a right, it's a privilege. You have to abide by the state you have it registered in. Or you will get fined and not be able to register it again. Your choice. - orfsotrExplorerThe impression I have from this OP is that he wants to continue living where he is, which I'm guessing is MO, but figure out a way to avoid paying taxes/registration in that state! But at the same time he wants all the benifts that are provided to him by the state, all that unimportant stuff like roads, bridges, fire protection, law enforcement, and the list goes on.
I also live in MO, I get 2 year tags for $58 and my inspection fee every two years is $12 (which I have not yet had to have since it is less then 10 years old) The assessed value is $9,000 while the resale value is $67,000 - $70,000. This increased my personal property tax by about $250(vast majority of this going for school tax)the first year but it does decrease every year as the valuation decreased. - mowermechExplorer"To the OP, the law-firm in Missoula you were referred to is to setup a Montana based LLC that "owns" your RV. Be-advised that some states (including Washington, California and Colorado) consider this tax-fraud."
I rather doubt that a resident of "Mo" as noted in the OP really cares what the authorities in WA, CA, or CO thinks of a MT LLC that is owned by a resident of that state! By the way, the LLC does, in FACT, OWN the RV. The LLC is the registered legal owner of the vehicle!
On a side note, if the RV is 11 years old or older, it can be registered in Montana with PERMANENT registration! No renewal is EVER required, until the title is transferred! NO inspections are required, either! If it is a trailer, it will be permanently registered even if brand new!
Yes, joint ownership IS possible. My Jeep has been in joint ownership since the day we bought it; it is in my name and my son's name. The Jeep is registered and titled in Montana, where I live. My son lives in California. If the OP has a relative or good friend who lives in a state where it would be advantageous to title and register his RV, it might bear looking in to. - BobboExplorer II
W4RLR wrote:
They live in Florida and are resident there as they are going to college there.
Actually, merely attending school doesn't give you residence. Now, if they want to claim Florida residence due to the part time job, they are certainly free to do so, but going to school, alone, doesn't require them to claim Florida residency.
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