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Aug 13, 2019

Jeep Death wobble

Just saw this one Jeep is planning to offer a free fix.
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  • Sounds like a band-aid fix when all you really need to do is insure the steering box bolts are tight and tie rod ends are in good shape. Called preventive maintenance.
  • Historically death wobble on multiple brands has been lack of caster. Yes, tightening up clearances with new parts helps as does a steering damper (which just tries to control the wobble) but, in general, solid front axles require 5 to 7 degrees of caster.
  • SidecarFlip wrote:
    Sounds like a band-aid fix when all you really need to do is insure the steering box bolts are tight and tie rod ends are in good shape. Called preventive maintenance.


    NOT TRUE. !! the newer Cherokee sedans have computer assisted steering. with out the electronic patch chord to power up the computer they will not tow correctly.
  • DougE wrote:
    Historically death wobble on multiple brands has been lack of caster. Yes, tightening up clearances with new parts helps as does a steering damper (which just tries to control the wobble) but, in general, solid front axles require 5 to 7 degrees of caster.


    NOT in the case of the late model Cherokee
  • Tom/Barb wrote:
    DougE wrote:
    Historically death wobble on multiple brands has been lack of caster. Yes, tightening up clearances with new parts helps as does a steering damper (which just tries to control the wobble) but, in general, solid front axles require 5 to 7 degrees of caster.


    NOT in the case of the late model Cherokee


    The "late model Cherokee" isn't a solid front axle.
  • twodownzero wrote:
    Tom/Barb wrote:
    DougE wrote:
    Historically death wobble on multiple brands has been lack of caster. Yes, tightening up clearances with new parts helps as does a steering damper (which just tries to control the wobble) but, in general, solid front axles require 5 to 7 degrees of caster.


    NOT in the case of the late model Cherokee


    The "late model Cherokee" isn't a solid front axle.


    The article was about the Wrangler JL, not the Cherokee.
  • FYI, Jeep does not like to call it "death wobble". Not a very consumer friendly name. And only a handful of wranglers suffer from it. He percentage is very low compared to the numbers sold.
  • wanderingaimlessly wrote:
    twodownzero wrote:
    Tom/Barb wrote:
    DougE wrote:
    Historically death wobble on multiple brands has been lack of caster. Yes, tightening up clearances with new parts helps as does a steering damper (which just tries to control the wobble) but, in general, solid front axles require 5 to 7 degrees of caster.


    NOT in the case of the late model Cherokee


    The "late model Cherokee" isn't a solid front axle.


    The article was about the Wrangler JL, not the Cherokee.


    I know, which is why I pointed out that his comment is irrelevant.

    I just got back from a 20 mile ride in my straight axle K5 with 37" tires. 1/8" of toe-in, aligned with a tape measure, and never even a hint of death wobble.
  • My 2019 JL wrangler is not included according to the bulletin. They "claim" its from the front dampener.
    When it goes in for the free 5K oil change we shall see.

    I drove my 08 JK 150K miles and it never wobbled, not even tried to wobble. The JL"s built in late 2018 reporting wobbles, the 2019 JL no reported wobbles.
  • DougE wrote:
    Historically death wobble on multiple brands has been lack of caster. Yes, tightening up clearances with new parts helps as does a steering damper (which just tries to control the wobble) but, in general, solid front axles require 5 to 7 degrees of caster.


    I have heard (or read) that if you toe it in a little that it takes out the death wobble. This is the first I have heard of camber.

    WW

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