Manslaughter charges for improper towing equipment.

keymastr wrote:
I guess you just like to argue. Jet ski's usually lack the room to carry a type IV throw able and the other vessels listed are too small and unstable to be attempting rescues from. It is to prevent the rescuer needing rescued.

nonsense, you certainly can throw a ring, etc., to somebody who has capsized their boat. a 14 ft V bottom could easily support several people hanging onto the side. but no, I would not try to have 5 people that weigh 300 lbs. each scramble into my canoe.
bumpy

I guess you just like to argue. Jet ski's usually lack the room to carry a type IV throw able and the other vessels listed are too small and unstable to be attempting rescues from. It is to prevent the rescuer needing rescued.

Just think of the RV knowledge you could learn if you can learn this much about boating. That would be the point of an education program.

Peddler95 wrote:

Don't disagree but, if true, why (at least in Florida), is a throwable not required if your boat is under 16 feet?

that is my point, somebody on a jet ski could throw a cushion if needed, as could somebody in a 14 ft boat, unpowered canoe etc. the racing exemption etc. is logical IMHO. But my point is that the throwable requirement is obviously so the "captain" can take care of his passengers, not that he must be an aux. coast guard ship.
bumpy

hotbyte wrote:

Bumpyroad wrote:

keymastr wrote:


And the throwable for a single occupant of a boat is to rescue someone from another boat you may find in the water.

not my responsibility. it is the responsibility of a person in HIS boat.
bumpy

It is totally your responsibility! If you see another boater in distress with risk to life or property you have a responsibility (a legal one) to render aid.

Don't disagree but, if true, why (at least in Florida), is a throwable not required if your boat is under 16 feet?

Bumpyroad wrote:

why is the law stated:
In addition to the wearable life jacket, there must be at least one (1) USCG approved Type IV throwable (ring buoy or seat cushion), on vessels of 16 feet or greater. The regulation to carry a Type IV does not apply to (1) personal watercraft; (2) non-motorized canoes and kayaks of 16 feet or greater; (3) racing shells, rowing sculls, racing canoes, and racing kayaks; (4) sailboards; and (5) vessels of the United States used by foreign competitors while practicing for or racing in competition."?
if it is a boaters responsibility to save others, why the exemptions?
bumpy

For racing vessels or competition vessels there should always be a power boat in the water nearby to handle rescue duties, in fact that is specifically why it is there.

For Personal watercraft.. I can not answer. but it appears it is not YOUR responsibility to save folks less you are a professional.

Frankly when it comes to water rescue.. that might not be a bad policy for an amateur who is not trained can do major harm.

sounds like the pizza oven driver was possibly negligent - either had the wrong size ball, didn't latch the coupler or lock the coupler (only time I've seen one bounce off the ball).

same with the chains - if the driver didn't properly attach the chains then it the DRIVERS fault.

LarryJM wrote:

hotbyte wrote:

Bumpyroad wrote:

hotbyte wrote:

Bumpyroad wrote:

keymastr wrote:


And the throwable for a single occupant of a boat is to rescue someone from another boat you may find in the water.

not my responsibility. it is the responsibility of a person in HIS boat.
bumpy

It is totally your responsibility! If you see another boater in distress with risk to life or property you have a responsibility (a legal one) to render aid.

I didn't see them. I didn't hear them.
bumpy

Hope you are joking...if not, that is worse than sad.

No even if only joking about something that serious is just as SAD:E:S

Larry

why is the law stated:
In addition to the wearable life jacket, there must be at least one (1) USCG approved Type IV throwable (ring buoy or seat cushion), on vessels of 16 feet or greater. The regulation to carry a Type IV does not apply to (1) personal watercraft; (2) non-motorized canoes and kayaks of 16 feet or greater; (3) racing shells, rowing sculls, racing canoes, and racing kayaks; (4) sailboards; and (5) vessels of the United States used by foreign competitors while practicing for or racing in competition."?
if it is a boaters responsibility to save others, why the exemptions?
bumpy

hotbyte wrote:

Bumpyroad wrote:

hotbyte wrote:

Bumpyroad wrote:

keymastr wrote:


And the throwable for a single occupant of a boat is to rescue someone from another boat you may find in the water.

not my responsibility. it is the responsibility of a person in HIS boat.
bumpy

It is totally your responsibility! If you see another boater in distress with risk to life or property you have a responsibility (a legal one) to render aid.

I didn't see them. I didn't hear them.
bumpy

Hope you are joking...if not, that is worse than sad.

No even if only joking about something that serious is just as SAD:E:S

Larry

So do we now need to install trowable life preservers and carry vest in the RV's or just in the trailers that detach from the RV, maybe an anchor on the trailer might work also?

navegator

hotbyte wrote:

Bumpyroad wrote:

hotbyte wrote:

Bumpyroad wrote:

keymastr wrote:


And the throwable for a single occupant of a boat is to rescue someone from another boat you may find in the water.

not my responsibility. it is the responsibility of a person in HIS boat.
bumpy

It is totally your responsibility! If you see another boater in distress with risk to life or property you have a responsibility (a legal one) to render aid.

I didn't see them. I didn't hear them.
bumpy

Hope you are joking...if not, that is worse than sad.

yep, not serious.
bumpy