"Mobile homes" flipped

If the Mayor had told those that don't know enough, four days out to leave, there would have been some still in dire straights but not a many.
Years ago we had a local weather bureau, with accurate forecasts.
A Radio and TV Personality many of us knew privately and a public figure would advise business and Employees they should leave early and so on.
A lot,of people owed their safety to him and the Weather Bureau.
A Businessman didn't like it as he wanted Employees to stay until they couldn't get home. Not his problem if they couldn't.
Enough pressure was brought to bear on the stations to not let him advise Employees and the Weather Bureau not to issue such advise.
There was two occasions, I remember of Employees of downtown Businesses Employees, being stuck at the Employers over the weekend and in one case a week.
No pay and no food and power outages too so no heat.
Next Election our ed Senators and Congressman succeeded in getting the local Weather Bureau closed too.
A result, as expected,above.
The Mayor could have issued an order to evacuate earlier but didn't. Business People wouldn't like the loss of expected business.
Roads jammed? As in Ga and the Carolinas, they turn both, sides of Interstate to outbound traffic only. How many Interstates out of Houston?I've lost count not to mention Texas Highways with broad shoulders that slower traffic will use, to let people in a hurry go by.
Then the Airports round the clock evacuation, but FEMA nor Texas though about emergency panning for round the clock evacuation by aircraft planning.It wouldn't solve the total problem but could have handled a huge chunk of the problems.
At any rate i would like to bee able to help but I would be an obstacle, right now.
If FEMA will even let Volunteers, in and direct them is perhaps a problem, remembering what happened with Katrina.
At Churches they will be filling vans or semis.
Large Mobile kitchens and refrigerated supply trucks,and large Generator trucks such as there is one outfit on the mountain will undoubtedly be headed that way.
Any of you able to go thank you

For the conspiracy buffs: We accuse the local forecasters and weather people of being on the payroll of the Chambers of Commerce here in the RGV (Rio Grande Valley of Texas). Proof: They often predict perfect weather coming up in three days. Just stick around.

As I travel around Texas, I have never seen the facility that can house and feed a couple of million evacuees. I know that there are multiple highways leaving Houston, but which one takes people to this wonderful place? Is there a special one for the folks that can afford it called Colorado?

I am amazed at the opinions of the people on this forum. Those of you who say they should have evacuated are just shooting from the hip with no real ideas. I challenge you to a simple quest. Come up with a method to evacuate 2.5 million people safely. You have to find a location, provide fuel to the vehicles, feed and house 2.5 million, provide necessary medicines and health care and even small things such as diapers, etc. By the way you have to put this in place in a matter of days. Go for it.

Tyler0215 wrote:

Second guessing anyones decision is foolish.
Send some money to the Red Cross instead of insulting those who stayed.

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Mortimer Brewster wrote:

valhalla360 wrote:

They knew about the storm for well over a week.
Yes, it's a huge task to move that many people but a hurricane is not a surprise.

I'm curious as to where you got your fact that people knew about the storm for well over a week. Apparently you know more than the National Hurricane Center.
The storm hit the coast on Friday. Two days previous on Wednesday the wind speed was 35 mph. It would be very tough to convince millions of people to evacuate given what was known on Wednesday. At that point the public was warned of possible hurricane conditions. Keep in mind that assuming you can get those people to move, you also need a place to put them all.

The real surprise was how quickly the storm intensified the day before it hit the coast, which was why more didn't evacuate.

Apparently the national news knows more. I saw this about a week before it hit on the news. Yeah, the winds were lower but they were predicting major increase and knew it was a slow moving storm and flooding was going to be the bigger issue rather than wind.

Even if they couldn't get everyone out, the more you get clear the fewer you have to rescue. If you are going to live a hurricane zone, you should be prepared to get out of town when a storm rolls in.

All well and good to criticize those that didn't evacuate, but how about the confused 93 year old World War II Vet who couldn't decide whether to take his Cadillac or his Lincoln? I would have told him to take the Lincoln. The point is that the young and wealthy had lots of choices and I am sure many headed out. I am also sure that many were not able to join the exodus if they wanted to. I guess they should be shot? Or at least ridiculed.

The point is that the young and wealthy had lots of choices and I am sure many headed out. I am also sure that many were not able to join the exodus if they wanted to. I guess they should be shot? Or at least ridiculed.

No one is ridiculing them or should they be shot.:R Wealth has nothing to do with it. It looks like you don't live in a hurricane prone state so you really don't know how it all works.

Yes they did inform these people how big this storm was going to be a week before landfall. They did give a voluntary evacuation notice at that time and told people not to stay and ride out the storm in their homes.

When you see those pictures of roads jammed up from 'previous' hurricanes is when people STAY TOO LONG and don't leave until the last minute. You did not see catastrophic traffic jams with Harvey because most left way before the predicted landfall.

2.3 million live in Houston
As of today only 8,000 rescued flood victims (who chose to stay)have showed up at the convention center.

That means aprox 2.292 million minus give or take the ones lucky enough to be on high ground and zero damage to their homes, heeded the 'advance' warning and evacuated safely, they are not stranded on a highway anywhere BECAUSE they had the advance warning and evacuated spread out over that weeks notice.

I live in Florida. The general consensus is if you choose to stay and not take advantage of the advanced warning that's their personal problem. Don't go complaining later and don't expect help during it.

Years ago we sent our fireman, rescue and police into harms way 'during' hurricanes to help the stupid that stayed.

Now 'Finally' the state says NO more. When the storm hits NO rescues will be on the streets to help anyone. Warning everyone that chooses not to leave they are on their own without out any help available.

This alone should encourage those to leave but they still don't. Again that is their personal problem. AND they alone are the ones that use up all the resources after the fact to get them out.:(

Yes, it's terrible when they show the 90 yr old vet or the people walking around in sewage contaminated water but they all CHOOSE to be there. If you live in Florida or New Orleans or Houston, your choice of living in a KNOWN bad weather area does NOT constitute a crisis for me. People made a choice to be in these areas and you have to be an idiot to not know that all of these things have happened before. Not only happened before but they live behind a dike in NO. How little brains does it take to understand what a dike is and what the risk is.

Go look at a flood zone map of Tx and tell me that this is just some unfortunate thing. On top of it all some of those people are in RV's in a high risk area like this which isn't even tied down like a mobile home. Now it's all a big crisis. No it's not, it's just stupidity.

When I've been in the north living in -10 degrees and people laugh and tell me OH it's been so beautiful down here in Fl, it's 65 today or send pic of Mardi gras and say wish you guys were here. Well ya know what? We aren't there DEAL with it.

rjxj wrote:

When I've been in the north living in -10 degrees and people laugh and tell me OH it's been so beautiful down here in Fl, it's 65 today or send pic of Mardi gras and say wish you guys were. Well ya know what? We aren't there DEAL with it.

We finally heard from someone who never makes a mistake. Must be nice. That Mom with two young kids, water running in the windows, and no car really respects your smarts. I suspect she will DEAL with it and I hope she is a lot more sympathetic if YOU ever find yourself in trouble. Oh, I forgot. You won't ever need help.

TomG2 wrote:

rjxj wrote:

When I've been in the north living in -10 degrees and people laugh and tell me OH it's been so beautiful down here in Fl, it's 65 today or send pic of Mardi gras and say wish you guys were. Well ya know what? We aren't there DEAL with it.

We finally heard from someone who never makes a mistake. Must be nice. That Mom with two young kids, water running in the windows, and no car really respects your smarts. I suspect she will DEAL with it and I hope she is a lot more sympathetic if YOU ever find yourself in trouble. Oh, I forgot. You won't ever need help.

Still the wrong answer. MAYBE just MAYBE it will dawn on her to live somewhere else or pay the price. Why is simple stuff so hard to understand for some? If you are stupid enough to wait to start the car engine to drive away in that deep of water guess what....YOU'RE GETTING WET. Too bad the kids learn from these people. My son lives there and was preparing days in advance. If he thought he would get wet he would have split. Now that he's sitting in a city that's an isolated dry island dont try to take his stuff or you may pay a high price. My daughter cant get to her house so shes in a hotel in downtown Denver dining out and partying. They chose that area but remember what it is and act accordingly. They dont want your tax dollars because of their choices.