"Mobile homes" flipped

rjxj wrote:
If you are stupid enough to wait to start the car engine to drive away in that deep of water guess what....YOU'RE GETTING WET. To bad the kids learn from these people. My son lives there and was preparing days in advance. If he thought he would get wet he would have split. Now that he's sitting in a city that's an isolated dry island dont try to take his stuff or you may pay a high price. My daughter cant get to her house so shes in a hotel in downtown Denver dining out and partying. They chose that area but remember what it is and act accordingly. They dont want your tax dollars because of their choices.

So, people that do not own a car are "Stupid". I hope you never get caught in a whiteout where the snow is measured in feet instead of inches. Denver is nice this time or year.

Now they are starting to also open the gates of the reservoirs so they are not breached. Is it cruel to send more water down stream? Not at all, that's how it's designed. Look at maps of Tx and notice all of those lakes have a flat a southern end to them. Those actually aren't lakes, they are reservoirs that help with flood control. Texas is flat and the water runs to the gulf. If you want the likely hood of staying dry live near the top of the flow, if you want to be flooded all the time live near the low end of the flow. Brilliant.

TomG2 wrote:

rjxj wrote:
If you are stupid enough to wait to start the car engine to drive away in that deep of water guess what....YOU'RE GETTING WET. To bad the kids learn from these people. My son lives there and was preparing days in advance. If he thought he would get wet he would have split. Now that he's sitting in a city that's an isolated dry island dont try to take his stuff or you may pay a high price. My daughter cant get to her house so shes in a hotel in downtown Denver dining out and partying. They chose that area but remember what it is and act accordingly. They dont want your tax dollars because of their choices.

So, people that do not own a car are "Stupid". I hope you never get caught in a whiteout where the snow is measured in feet instead of inches. Denver is nice this time or year.

Not owning a car is just an excuse. If the same person chose to not live in a flood zone do you think they would be wet right now? NO. The bottom line no matter if it's the Atlantic coast, Florida, NO or Houston people made the choice. They make choices and then are surprised when it comes home to roost.

I have been in bad snow storms and had blankets, flashlights, mre, extra car battery and a pair of good boots in the trunk. It wast brilliant to understand that there was risk for me but I took that risk

If I went to Alaska and walk in the woods and get eaten by a bear it's not the bears fault. The bear is being a bear and water is being water. Water runs down hill.

rjxj wrote:
Texas is flat and the water runs to the gulf. If you want the likely hood of staying dry live near the top of the flow, if you want to be flooded all the time live near the low end of the flow. Brilliant.

Did you figure that out all by yourself? Stuff still runs downhill. Doesn't it? Except on the Internet where it can go any direction.

Now we know who you think is "Brilliant".

DiskDoctr wrote:
Appreciate the coverage, though calling 5th wheels and Travel trailers "mobile homes" is a bit off.

RV Park Video

LOL.... looks like another belly bumpin' hijack.

However many rv folks call our old '40s/'50s/'60s house trailers (mobilehomes) travel trailers.....like in the long long trailer movie.

The guy in the youtube hasn't been around mobilehomes and rv trailers long enough to know the difference.

We've never seen a hurricane like Harvey. A storm crossing its own path is rare and Harvey's track is amazing, basically not moving but just dumping rain. So the area wound up with a 1 in 500 year flood. Do you really prepare for that as a city building dams etc?

But a question for the locals. What percent of the area or population has/will be flooded?

We've been fortunate to avoid significant hurricanes, mud slides and earthquakes. Never been in the most scary to me which is a tornado.

We are donating to the Red Cross to help.

In retrospect we now know that neither New Orleans or Houston is designed for abnormal flooding.

TomG2 wrote:
All well and good to criticize those that didn't evacuate, but how about the confused 93 year old World War II Vet who couldn't decide whether to take his Cadillac or his Lincoln? I would have told him to take the Lincoln. The point is that the young and wealthy had lots of choices and I am sure many headed out. I am also sure that many were not able to join the exodus if they wanted to. I guess they should be shot? Or at least ridiculed.

The more you get to leave voluntarily, the fewer you have to go in and rescue. If the guy in your example has two operational vehicles and chose to sit it out, it's his stupidity. While we should honor his service to our country, it doesn't mean he isn't stupid.

While there are people who literally have no transportation, they are tiny slice of the population and most could get out if they asked friends or family for help. Worst case, they could check amtrack or greyhound. Yes, it's a burden to evacuate but this was not a surprise.

No ones calling them evil but there is also very limited sympathy for those who choose to do something stupid.

valhalla360 wrote:

TomG2 wrote:
All well and good to criticize those that didn't evacuate, but how about the confused 93 year old World War II Vet who couldn't decide whether to take his Cadillac or his Lincoln? I would have told him to take the Lincoln. The point is that the young and wealthy had lots of choices and I am sure many headed out. I am also sure that many were not able to join the exodus if they wanted to. I guess they should be shot? Or at least ridiculed.

The more you get to leave voluntarily, the fewer you have to go in and rescue. If the guy in your example has two operational vehicles and chose to sit it out, it's his stupidity. While we should honor his service to our country, it doesn't mean he isn't stupid.

While there are people who literally have no transportation, they are tiny slice of the population and most could get out if they asked friends or family for help. Worst case, they could check amtrack or greyhound. Yes, it's a burden to evacuate but this was not a surprise.

No ones calling them evil but there is also very limited sympathy for those who choose to do something stupid.

NO NO NO Valhalla360
Everyone is a victim of something. They cant think for themselves and they can never be judged for their decisions so we need to rush in to save them.....with everyone else money. :)

valhalla360 wrote:
If the guy in your example has two operational vehicles and chose to sit it out, it's his stupidity. While we should honor his service to our country, it doesn't mean he isn't stupid.
..snip....

No ones calling them evil but there is also very limited sympathy for those who choose to do something stupid.

There is no "guy in my example" but there are a lot of old people in Houston that do not have two or three vehicles to choose from as their escape vehicle. I guess they are all "Stupid".

I ran a construction company with one hundred employees. Getting them all headed in the same direction was challenging, to say the least. For those who have never managed anything, three million people would be totally ridiculous. It is easy to get the mobile folks with a full tank of gas out of town. Are you suggesting that they leave the rest behind to fend for themselves because they are "stupid"? Not the way that I would do it. Everyone is looking for an easy answer and someone to blame. When we get a rain that only happens every five hundred years, there is no easy answer. A little compassion would help.

TomG2 wrote:

valhalla360 wrote:
If the guy in your example has two operational vehicles and chose to sit it out, it's his stupidity. While we should honor his service to our country, it doesn't mean he isn't stupid.
..snip....

No ones calling them evil but there is also very limited sympathy for those who choose to do something stupid.

There is no "guy in my example" but there are a lot of old people in Houston that do not have two or three vehicles to choose from as their escape vehicle. I guess they are all "Stupid".

I ran a construction company with one hundred employees. Getting them all headed in the same direction was challenging, to say the least. For those who have never managed anything, three million people would be totally ridiculous. It is easy to get the mobile folks with a full tank of gas out of town. Are you suggesting that they leave the rest behind to fend for themselves because they are "stupid"? Not the way that I would do it. Everyone is looking for an easy answer and someone to blame. When we get a rain that only happens every five hundred years, there is no easy answer. A little compassion would help.

Snip from your prior post: but how about the confused 93 year old World War II Vet who couldn't decide whether to take his Cadillac or his Lincoln?

Sure sounds like you had a guy in an example?

No one is saying there are zero people without cars just that it's a very small portion of the population. Get those with transportation to help themselves and it becomes a much more manageable problem to help the remainder.

Compassion is nice until they need a smack up side the head to get them to do the right thing. Telling people it's OK when they do stupid things only encourages them to do stupid things.