"Mobile homes" flipped

Now they are starting to also open the gates of the reservoirs so they are not breached. Is it cruel to send more water down stream? Not at all, that's how it's designed. Look at maps of Tx and notice all of those lakes have a flat a southern end to them. Those actually aren't lakes, they are reservoirs that help with flood control. Texas is flat and the water runs to the gulf. If you want the likely hood of staying dry live near the top of the flow, if you want to be flooded all the time live near the low end of the flow. Brilliant.

rjxj wrote:
If you are stupid enough to wait to start the car engine to drive away in that deep of water guess what....YOU'RE GETTING WET. To bad the kids learn from these people. My son lives there and was preparing days in advance. If he thought he would get wet he would have split. Now that he's sitting in a city that's an isolated dry island dont try to take his stuff or you may pay a high price. My daughter cant get to her house so shes in a hotel in downtown Denver dining out and partying. They chose that area but remember what it is and act accordingly. They dont want your tax dollars because of their choices.

So, people that do not own a car are "Stupid". I hope you never get caught in a whiteout where the snow is measured in feet instead of inches. Denver is nice this time or year.

TomG2 wrote:

rjxj wrote:

When I've been in the north living in -10 degrees and people laugh and tell me OH it's been so beautiful down here in Fl, it's 65 today or send pic of Mardi gras and say wish you guys were. Well ya know what? We aren't there DEAL with it.

We finally heard from someone who never makes a mistake. Must be nice. That Mom with two young kids, water running in the windows, and no car really respects your smarts. I suspect she will DEAL with it and I hope she is a lot more sympathetic if YOU ever find yourself in trouble. Oh, I forgot. You won't ever need help.

Still the wrong answer. MAYBE just MAYBE it will dawn on her to live somewhere else or pay the price. Why is simple stuff so hard to understand for some? If you are stupid enough to wait to start the car engine to drive away in that deep of water guess what....YOU'RE GETTING WET. Too bad the kids learn from these people. My son lives there and was preparing days in advance. If he thought he would get wet he would have split. Now that he's sitting in a city that's an isolated dry island dont try to take his stuff or you may pay a high price. My daughter cant get to her house so shes in a hotel in downtown Denver dining out and partying. They chose that area but remember what it is and act accordingly. They dont want your tax dollars because of their choices.

rjxj wrote:

When I've been in the north living in -10 degrees and people laugh and tell me OH it's been so beautiful down here in Fl, it's 65 today or send pic of Mardi gras and say wish you guys were. Well ya know what? We aren't there DEAL with it.

We finally heard from someone who never makes a mistake. Must be nice. That Mom with two young kids, water running in the windows, and no car really respects your smarts. I suspect she will DEAL with it and I hope she is a lot more sympathetic if YOU ever find yourself in trouble. Oh, I forgot. You won't ever need help.

Yes, it's terrible when they show the 90 yr old vet or the people walking around in sewage contaminated water but they all CHOOSE to be there. If you live in Florida or New Orleans or Houston, your choice of living in a KNOWN bad weather area does NOT constitute a crisis for me. People made a choice to be in these areas and you have to be an idiot to not know that all of these things have happened before. Not only happened before but they live behind a dike in NO. How little brains does it take to understand what a dike is and what the risk is.

Go look at a flood zone map of Tx and tell me that this is just some unfortunate thing. On top of it all some of those people are in RV's in a high risk area like this which isn't even tied down like a mobile home. Now it's all a big crisis. No it's not, it's just stupidity.

When I've been in the north living in -10 degrees and people laugh and tell me OH it's been so beautiful down here in Fl, it's 65 today or send pic of Mardi gras and say wish you guys were here. Well ya know what? We aren't there DEAL with it.

The point is that the young and wealthy had lots of choices and I am sure many headed out. I am also sure that many were not able to join the exodus if they wanted to. I guess they should be shot? Or at least ridiculed.

No one is ridiculing them or should they be shot.:R Wealth has nothing to do with it. It looks like you don't live in a hurricane prone state so you really don't know how it all works.

Yes they did inform these people how big this storm was going to be a week before landfall. They did give a voluntary evacuation notice at that time and told people not to stay and ride out the storm in their homes.

When you see those pictures of roads jammed up from 'previous' hurricanes is when people STAY TOO LONG and don't leave until the last minute. You did not see catastrophic traffic jams with Harvey because most left way before the predicted landfall.

2.3 million live in Houston
As of today only 8,000 rescued flood victims (who chose to stay)have showed up at the convention center.

That means aprox 2.292 million minus give or take the ones lucky enough to be on high ground and zero damage to their homes, heeded the 'advance' warning and evacuated safely, they are not stranded on a highway anywhere BECAUSE they had the advance warning and evacuated spread out over that weeks notice.

I live in Florida. The general consensus is if you choose to stay and not take advantage of the advanced warning that's their personal problem. Don't go complaining later and don't expect help during it.

Years ago we sent our fireman, rescue and police into harms way 'during' hurricanes to help the stupid that stayed.

Now 'Finally' the state says NO more. When the storm hits NO rescues will be on the streets to help anyone. Warning everyone that chooses not to leave they are on their own without out any help available.

This alone should encourage those to leave but they still don't. Again that is their personal problem. AND they alone are the ones that use up all the resources after the fact to get them out.:(

All well and good to criticize those that didn't evacuate, but how about the confused 93 year old World War II Vet who couldn't decide whether to take his Cadillac or his Lincoln? I would have told him to take the Lincoln. The point is that the young and wealthy had lots of choices and I am sure many headed out. I am also sure that many were not able to join the exodus if they wanted to. I guess they should be shot? Or at least ridiculed.

Mortimer Brewster wrote:

valhalla360 wrote:

They knew about the storm for well over a week.
Yes, it's a huge task to move that many people but a hurricane is not a surprise.

I'm curious as to where you got your fact that people knew about the storm for well over a week. Apparently you know more than the National Hurricane Center.
The storm hit the coast on Friday. Two days previous on Wednesday the wind speed was 35 mph. It would be very tough to convince millions of people to evacuate given what was known on Wednesday. At that point the public was warned of possible hurricane conditions. Keep in mind that assuming you can get those people to move, you also need a place to put them all.

The real surprise was how quickly the storm intensified the day before it hit the coast, which was why more didn't evacuate.

Apparently the national news knows more. I saw this about a week before it hit on the news. Yeah, the winds were lower but they were predicting major increase and knew it was a slow moving storm and flooding was going to be the bigger issue rather than wind.

Even if they couldn't get everyone out, the more you get clear the fewer you have to rescue. If you are going to live a hurricane zone, you should be prepared to get out of town when a storm rolls in.

Tyler0215 wrote:

Second guessing anyones decision is foolish.
Send some money to the Red Cross instead of insulting those who stayed.

Best thing I've read in this thread so far!Donate HERE!

I am amazed at the opinions of the people on this forum. Those of you who say they should have evacuated are just shooting from the hip with no real ideas. I challenge you to a simple quest. Come up with a method to evacuate 2.5 million people safely. You have to find a location, provide fuel to the vehicles, feed and house 2.5 million, provide necessary medicines and health care and even small things such as diapers, etc. By the way you have to put this in place in a matter of days. Go for it.