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Would that "Real Journalism" include the Haley Hit piece prominently published by the NYT last weekend? Or does that fall under the "Fake News"?

captnjack wrote:

troubledwaters wrote:
Your first problem is you're reading the NYT. Once you discount for that there is nothing left worth reading.

The author interviewed the following individuals for the article:

An area university professor of economics.
A US Senator from IN.
The president of the RV Association.
A County Commissioner.
The president of the local chamber of commerce.
A representative from Dometic.

The article also included statistics on units sold over the past two years.

So is it your contention that they all lied?
Or do you think the author made it up? (Fake news?)
Are all the involved parties deranged socialists?

All indications are that this was a well researched article on the current state of RV manufacturing in this country (80% of all American units are manufactured there).
We call this journalism. We should embrace it. Then we will have sufficient information with which to form our opinions. As opposed to forming our opinions and then finding the "facts" we like.

Logical arguments will not move the "real journalism is fake news" crowd, who think that anyone who has any expertise is a liar, all statistics are made up, and anything that goes against their preconceived notions is a socialist plot to destroy America.

2012Coleman wrote:

captnjack wrote:

I imagine the fox would be a reliable source of information with a unique perspective. So I would want that fox interviewed.

Ah yes, but that Fox would most likely only comment on the alternative facts...

Gotta love those "alternative facts"!

captnjack wrote:

I imagine the fox would be a reliable source of information with a unique perspective. So I would want that fox interviewed.

Ah yes, but that Fox would most likely only comment on the alternative facts...

Lynnmor wrote:

captnjack wrote:

The author interviewed the following individuals for the article:

An area university professor of economics.
A US Senator from IN.
The president of the RV Association.
A County Commissioner.
The president of the local chamber of commerce.
A representative from Dometic.

So when he reports on hen houses, does he interview the foxes?

I imagine the fox would be a reliable source of information with a unique perspective. So I would want that fox interviewed.

But at least five of the six people I listed could not realistically be described as foxes here. More like farmers.

captnjack wrote:

The author interviewed the following individuals for the article:

An area university professor of economics.
A US Senator from IN.
The president of the RV Association.
A County Commissioner.
The president of the local chamber of commerce.
A representative from Dometic.

So when he reports on hen houses, does he interview the foxes?

captnjack wrote:

troubledwaters wrote:
Your first problem is you're reading the NYT. Once you discount for that there is nothing left worth reading.

The author interviewed the following individuals for the article:

An area university professor of economics.
A US Senator from IN.
The president of the RV Association.
A County Commissioner.
The president of the local chamber of commerce.
A representative from Dometic.

The article also included statistics on units sold over the past two years.

So is it your contention that they all lied?
Or do you think the author made it up? (Fake news?)
Are all the involved parties deranged socialists?

All indications are that this was a well researched article on the current state of RV manufacturing in this country (80% of all American units are manufactured there).
We call this journalism. We should embrace it. Then we will have sufficient information with which to form our opinions. As opposed to forming our opinions and then finding the "facts" we like.

Well said.

troubledwaters wrote:
Your first problem is you're reading the NYT. Once you discount for that there is nothing left worth reading.

The author interviewed the following individuals for the article:

An area university professor of economics.
A US Senator from IN.
The president of the RV Association.
A County Commissioner.
The president of the local chamber of commerce.
A representative from Dometic.

The article also included statistics on units sold over the past two years.

So is it your contention that they all lied?
Or do you think the author made it up? (Fake news?)
Are all the involved parties deranged socialists?

All indications are that this was a well researched article on the current state of RV manufacturing in this country (80% of all American units are manufactured there).
We call this journalism. We should embrace it. Then we will have sufficient information with which to form our opinions. As opposed to forming our opinions and then finding the "facts" we like.

spoon059 wrote:
Based upon the lack of available campsites in the Eastern US, I might be inclined to believe that RV sales are quite strong...

...

Or the lack of campsites may stem from the fact that you probably haven't seen a new from the ground up campground built in the last few years.