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Francesca_Knowl's avatar
Oct 14, 2014

O.K. to dump graywater in National Parks!

It's official- digging a hole for graywater/kitchen scraps is A-O.K. in National Parks. Well, in Olympic National Park, anyway.

Source of the below quote is an article about a Park-sponsored project to move an old structure within its boundaries. Here's what the folks in charge of feeding the crews had to say about the evidently sanctioned way to dispose of cooking/washing residues:

The Cooks wrote:
.....snip......The park had a long list of restrictions and requirements, including needing a food-handlers permit. It also wanted a detailed report on how they were going to prepare and preserve the food for the duration of the trip.
.....snip.....
Sherry says she and Sara built their own sump for the location, practicing Leave No Trace.

“For the sump, we cut a patch of sod, turned it over and laid it to the side. We dug our hole. We threw leftover food, our dishwater or whatever waste we had in there, and when we left, we put dirt back in to fill it up and covered it with the piece of sod,” says Sherry.


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  • You can't do it in the Everglades National Park.
    I couldn't even empty my fresh water tank.
    We had almost a full fresh water tank, so I asked the ranger if it was OK to dump it and he said no it had to be treated as gray water and we couldn't do it.
    Needless to say after leaving the camp ground, I found a pull over and dumped it - the fresh that is.

    Jack L
  • robatthelake wrote:
    I'm not saying whether or not it's Legal,good or bad!

    With the incredible drout conditions in the West this past Summer it seems to Me that dumping Grey Water is probably very Good practice!

    As far as Food scraps go...well!

    We compost these at Home in a pile of Dirt! We live on the edge of the Forest which is teeming with wildlife who are mostly vegetarians. In the thirty plus Years that We have lived here ,We have never had any Critters dig up Our Compost!

    There are confirmed cases of the local Bears ripping open Garbage Cans and those Stylish ..Hi Tech Compost Bins however!

    X2
    Extraordinary conditions call for an equal response.
    Just read an article in the the Oct. National Geographic and it reinforced the water problems the West is having with graphic photographs added to the text.
  • I'm not saying whether or not it's Legal,good or bad!

    With the incredible drout conditions in the West this past Summer it seems to Me that dumping Grey Water is probably very Good practice!

    As far as Food scraps go...well!

    We compost these at Home in a pile of Dirt! We live on the edge of the Forest which is teeming with wildlife who are mostly vegetarians. In the thirty plus Years that We have lived here ,We have never had any Critters dig up Our Compost!

    There are confirmed cases of the local Bears ripping open Garbage Cans and those Stylish ..Hi Tech Compost Bins however!
  • Don't assume it is ok in all parks.

    From Zion web site: • Grey water (dishwater and solar shower) must be dumped down drains near the water spigots outside each restroom or at utility sinks at new restrooms. RVs may dispose of grey water at the dump station

    From Cedar Breaks web site: Waste water (grey water) must not be drained on the ground. Collect waste water and dump it in the camper's sink located on the west side of the restroom building. Grey water from RV waste tanks is not permitted.

    Better check others before you try it.
  • So thru the 40s, 50s and 60s RVs didn't even have gray tanks.
    Problem was; there were lots of Phosphates in the soaps and detergents that were bad for the water. So the New Nixon created EPA mandated no more dumping combined with taking phosphates out of cleaning products was put in place in the 70s.

    Fast forward 30-40 years and it doesn't damage anything putting biodegradable water on or in the ground.

    I'm not crazy about garbage as it's going attract critters.
  • We were at a US Forest Service campground this summer and I asked the campground host about the nearest dump site. He gave me directions and added that we could dump our grey tank at our site. I was surprised, thought he was mistaken, and did not dump it. Perhaps he was right after all.
  • korbe wrote:
    Aren't rules to be in place so we don't have to rely on common sense? ;)

    The rules only apply to those who care about the next guy.
  • Aren't rules to be in place so we don't have to rely on common sense? ;)
  • Ron3rd's avatar
    Ron3rd
    Explorer III
    If done properly, it won't hurt anything. But you'll always have the bonehead that just dumps it on the ground so you can walk through the scraps later.

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