Oil headed for 70 bucks s barrel. Here we go.

Turtle n Peeps wrote:
Sorry, I don't see nukes as green power. So if you add nuke and fossil together you get close to 90% where it has been for many years.

You said fossil fuel. I don't see nukes as fossil fuel.

Meanwhile, while the green weenies, some of whom frequent these boards, insist on putting us at an economic and more importantly a strategic disadvantage, these fine folks insist on building new coal plants at a rapid pace. What way do those prevailing winds blow?

An area of solar panels of 100 x 100 miles backed up by 1 x 1 miles of batteries could power the entire United States. Long distance DC transmission lines can transport the power. Obviously the solar won’t all have to be in the same place.

The Gemini Solar project is an example of the rapid development taking place. 690 Megawatts with 531 MW / 2125 megawatt-hour (MWh) battery power.

https://pv-magazine-usa.com/2019/06/10/worlds-largest-battery-system-planned-for-nevada-solar-plant/

Just electricity related:



Of course most of the decline in coal has been through retrofitting the burner to use natural gas. Still a reduction in CO2 per kWh.

Turtle n Peeps wrote:

2oldman wrote:

Turtle n Peeps wrote:
The bottom line is fossil fuel has supplied around 90% of electric power for decades and will continue to do the same for many decades to come.

I find the number is 64%

Sorry, I don't see nukes as green power. So if you add nuke and fossil together you get close to 90% where it has been for many years.

You seem to have missed the cancer-causing windmills making whomp-whomp-whomp-whomp noises.:W

2oldman wrote:

Turtle n Peeps wrote:
The bottom line is fossil fuel has supplied around 90% of electric power for decades and will continue to do the same for many decades to come.

I find the number is 64%

Sorry, I don't see nukes as green power. So if you add nuke and fossil together you get close to 90% where it has been for many years.

2oldman wrote:

Turtle n Peeps wrote:
The bottom line is fossil fuel has supplied around 90% of electric power for decades and will continue to do the same for many decades to come.

I find the number is 64%

Or 19 percent in Canada. Three percent by 2030.

Turtle n Peeps wrote:
The bottom line is fossil fuel has supplied around 90% of electric power for decades and will continue to do the same for many decades to come.

I find the number is 64%

LOL ok, lets talk about renewables.

If you can read the chart I posted you will be able to see that renewables were pretty much stagnant from 1980 till today......and they worn't much less before 1980.

Fossil fuel have been right around 90% from 1950 to now.

The problem with renewables is many. Cost, environmental damage and many more. And yes, there is environmental damage.

I live next to the biggest geothermal electric producer in the world. I have several friends and family that works there. Dealing with the heavy metals and poisons that come out of the ground is daunting. Many, many wells have been abandon and capped off because the steam that comes out of the ground is so corrosive it just eats the equipment up.

Solar is good except for the land it displaces. Land is expensive and so are solar panels.

Hydro electric dams cause many environmental problems and many people want to take built dams down. There will be very few if any dams built in 100 from now. The environmental damage caused by China's new mega dam.

Wind power has all kinds of cost problems and environmental problems.

The bottom line is fossil fuel has supplied around 90% of electric power for decades and will continue to do the same for many decades to come.

Not sure but is that above graph indicative of energy or electricity. If the former it would be interesting to see a graph on electricity generation by source.