Overnight Visitor

Edd505 wrote:
You may want to report to the police, it maybe related to other crimes in the area. Even if it is a schizophrenic he/she may need help winters on it's way. Last case I had like that was a teen that had been thrown out of his home. Got him sent to job corps where he had a place to sleep, a job, and eats.

Congrats for getting him in the right direction, I'm sick of hearing people these days "I can't find a job", well they are correct in one instance, if they never get off their lazy arses,and go look for one, they never will find a job, and as long people keep up with the handouts, thinking they're actually helping them, there's no incentive to go looking.

If you look under the bunk mattress you will see that I left you $20.00 in cash. If I would have had all amenities I would have paid the going price in your area of $40.00 per night. You didn't have to wipe everything down because not knowing you I did that before I stayed the night. By the way the Good N Plenty's were also stale but please know that I appreciated everything else. If you would have a computer there with spell checker I would not have misspelled please

bukhrn wrote:

Edd505 wrote:
You may want to report to the police, it maybe related to other crimes in the area. Even if it is a schizophrenic he/she may need help winters on it's way. Last case I had like that was a teen that had been thrown out of his home. Got him sent to job corps where he had a place to sleep, a job, and eats.

Congrats for getting him in the right direction, I'm sick of hearing people these days "I can't find a job", well they are correct in one instance, if they never get off their lazy arses,and go look for one, they never will find a job, and as long people keep up with the handouts, thinking they're actually helping them, there's no incentive to go looking.

Not every person with schizophrenia can do that. Many are so messed up and the drugs turn them into zombies that they can't function in the real world. And meds don't always work.

I really feel for folks with schizophrenia - I can't imagine hearing people talking at me all the time and no way to get away from it. To me, that is the worst he11.

toedtoes wrote:
There was a note. I don't have it right here, but it said something about please. Then "they want to kill it", and then something about just do it.

That right there would cause me to call the police and make a report. That's not "normal" doodling; you may have been very lucky to not show up when he was there.

Boy, there are a lot of paranoid people on this forum

Cautious people I'd say. Calling the police just to report it is a "no harm no foul" type of action. And if later one he found something missing he can report it not only to the police but also to the insurance company. If no report is filed it's very difficult to collect.

4x4van wrote:

toedtoes wrote:
There was a note. I don't have it right here, but it said something about please. Then "they want to kill it", and then something about just do it.

That right there would cause me to call the police and make a report. That's not "normal" doodling; you may have been very lucky to not show up when he was there.

That's a sign of schizophrenia. The voices are telling him things. Had it said "I want to kill it" or "they want me to kill it" I would be more concerned.

Crowe wrote:
Boy, there are a lot of paranoid people on this forum

Cautious people I'd say. Calling the police just to report it is a "no harm no foul" type of action. And if later one he found something missing he can report it not only to the police but also to the insurance company. If no report is filed it's very difficult to collect.

There was nothing taken. I went through it. Not even a flashlight or lantern. Definitely not anything of real value (like the jump starter battery, camera, telescope, mp3 player). Insurance won't pay out for a couple sodas and a bag of chips.

Well - you've listed all the reasons NOT to report it.

Here's a few leaning the other way:

1. The PD may have other similar "overnighter" complaints with different outcomes. It may help to know where they occur.

2. Who knows if the "nice" visitor would react differently had you walked in on him (or her). Do you know if he/she was armed?
Were there other instances? - Did those have different outcomes?

3. Sometimes an insignificant report can be tied to one with more serious implications (the "more important" things you believe the PD is involved with).

Recently a nice guy allowed a homeless person to stay in his RV overnight. She wouldn't leave in the morning. Turned into a standoff with the LA (CA) PD live on local news - she finally came out after *she* torched the RV (total loss).

Sometimes nice guys finish last!

And - Good news travels fast (among the homeless):
"There's an unlocked RV parked over on River Street - even has food inside! It had all kinds of neat stuff inside which I left alone!" (which he describes).

So now - the word is out!
Your *NEXT* visitor may be hocking the items the first didn't take - even if he has to break in to get them - since he knows they are/were there!


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I agree with Dtanks post above...

At first, I was thinking 'no big deal, just forget about it', then after reading all of the above posts I have to agree that I would probably report it.

It makes you wonder why someone would check unlocked RV's. The 'public' are so much different now than when my Mom and Dad spoke of people from the 1940's-1950's. Remember when you didn't lock your front door? Can you ever imagine not doing that now?

We're in a different world today,

Safe travels,
MM.

Dtank wrote:
Well - you've listed all the reasons NOT to report it.

Here's a few leaning the other way:

1. The PD may have other similar "overnighter" complaints with different outcomes. It may help to know where they occur.

2. Who knows if the "nice" visitor would react differently had you walked in on him (or her). Do you know if he/she was armed?
Were there other instances? - Did those have different outcomes?

3. Sometimes an insignificant report can be tied to one with more serious implications (the "more important" things you believe the PD is involved with).

Recently a nice guy allowed a homeless person to stay in his RV overnight. She wouldn't leave in the morning. Turned into a standoff with the LA (CA) PD live on local news - she finally came out after *she* torched the RV (total loss).

Sometimes nice guys finish last!

And - Good news travels fast (among the homeless):
"There's an unlocked RV parked over on River Street - even has food inside! It had all kinds of neat stuff inside which I left alone!" (which he describes).

So now - the word is out!
Your *NEXT* visitor may be hocking the items the first didn't take - even if he has to break in to get them - since he knows they are/were there!


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1. I have checked the police calls and there have been no break-ins, thefts, etc., in the area.

2. I didn't walk in on them. I don't even know how many days had passed since he had been in the RV. The only instances in the neighborhood have been a neighborhood kid taking loose change from unlocked cars, an adult son burglarizing his mother's house, a fight that was likely over drugs, and some kids breaking into an empty house. There have been no problems with homeless other than panhandling.

3. As I have said, I routinely check the police log, I am subscribed to the police alert system, and I am aware of neighborhood goings on. There is nothing that has involved homeless, the are no murderers on the loose, there are no kids or old folks missing, etc. I'm not just ignoring a potential problem, I am just aware that this is not a sign of worse things.

This person did not "overstay his welcome". I am not in the habit of inviting people to stay in my RV. This was a fluke incident where someone happened by and my door was unlocked. He was long gone by the time I realized he had been there. I'm not going to be afraid of what might have happened when it didn't happen. This incident isn't going to convince me to turn my RV into a homeless shelter. Yes, it could have been a lot worse - I was very lucky. I know that. But that doesn't make me afraid.

I have made sure it is locked up. I have removed items of value. I do a walk around and check doors, windows, etc., every couple days to make sure everything is OK. If someone is inside, I will call the police and not confront the person.

I get all the arguments for reporting it, but it's not going to do anything more than have an officer spend time writing up a report that goes nowhere. I have done my due diligence in making sure this wasn't a sign of a bigger problem.