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ApexAZ
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Sep 10, 2021

ProPride and lifted 3500

Hi all,

We just applied for financing on a 2021 Fuel F-287.

Assuming the loan gets approved, we should be picking the unit up on the 18th. I have a 2020 Denali 3500 SRW that I put a 4" suspension lift and larger 35" tires on, which put us just a wee bit too high to fit a 5th wheel, so we opted for a bumper pull.

A couple questions I have are:

My truck is rated at 20k conventional hitch weight with 2k tongue weight, and a CGVW of 29700. The trailer has a GVWR of 12,800 and I'm guessing the truck probably weighs in around 8500 curb weight (I plan to try and weigh it soon if I can find a place), which will put me at around 22.5k max combined weight when factoring in passengers and added cargo. Obviously the lift and bigger tires reduce capacity, but does anyone know just how much? I'll still be about 7k under the stock CGVW and conventional hitch figure.

Does anyone have a similar truck who have upgraded their brakes? Is this an option to improve stopping power?

I'm looking at the ProPride 3P hitch. Trailer sway makes me nervous and the lift compounds that. I'm hoping this will make towing safer. Anyone have experience with these and are they worth the $? If they work as advertised, it seems like money well spent for added safety. Any cons? It seems to add a few feet to overall length. Should I assume I'll need some air bags too?

I have seen several comments on various forums that people replace the stock hitch receiver with a class 5. In looking at some of those, the ratings are all very similar to that 2k/20k capacity, so I'm wondering if that's something I should worry about, or is the stock one already a class 5 and sufficient? I can't seem to find any info on the GMC pages.

Thanks so much!

Brian

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  • Grit_dog's avatar
    Grit_dog
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    Oct 28, 2021
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    ApexAZ wrote:

    EDIT: Attached a pic of the truck (with kiddie tires) and trailer. I'll get one of both in a week or so.



    I'll see your "kidde" tires and raise you a set of "infantile" tires! LOL
    On this scale, what would 40" Swampers be? "Pre-natal" tires?



    And some "barely an itch in your daddy's shorts" tires!




    Also, your toilet leak, is it the supply line/valve dripping? Where it goes into the toilet. I had a drip there this year, appeared to be the valve leaking, replaced it and then found the connection was just loose. (Looked like it was coming from the push button end of the valve though)
  • Grit_dog's avatar
    Grit_dog
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    Shoot, Mr Benk, I know ya have a 1 ton Burb (very nice example of one at that), but to glom onto BackofthePack's diatribe, which I've read multiple times, pretty sure it's at the ready to cut n paste anytime, with minor modifications, and then talk about upgrading this n that on the OP's truck sure makes it sound like you don't understand the OP has a brand new, arguably the most capable srw truck on the road. With a 20klb bumper pull rating and a payload big enough to handle 3 of his tongue weights at the same time (not on the hitch of course, would over laod that rating...), why the fuss over track width due to a small lift and bigger sway bars, etc.
    You said it yourself, dragging 14k behind a 70's technology half ton, what would give any pause or even remote need to upgrade ANYTHING on the OP's truck to pull half it's factory tow rating +/-?

    While I'm sure it is meant to be helpful, I have to wonder how many "newbies" leave this forum to run down to the truck shop and do all kinds of needless "upgrades" to make the most capable, safest vehicles on the road, to date, even more "safe"?

    I'm only trying to add an element of common sense and practicality to the plethora of "recommendations" that get posted here regularly, that are somewhere out in left field.

    My opinion, your opinion, they differ.
  • BenK's avatar
    BenK
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    Oct 28, 2021
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    Well..kinda sorta have 1 ton truck experience...and add just for poops and giggles...have designed industrial disc brakes & wind generator disc brakes up to 48" in dia...among many other things...


    Did the work myself, installing a Dana 60 front and GM 14 bolt rear axles on my K5 Blazer, which are 1 ton axles. And the attendant stuff that goes with all of that upgrade. Like a 2" lift kit and sandbar cage. Also changed out the 22 gallon main tank with an aftermarket 50 gallon main tank.

    Didn't tow much with the K5 as knew short wheel based 4x4's & trucks didn't handle the trailer well in adverse condition as tried to tow with my 1970 FJ40. The pic was before deciding to tow with and added a receiver.

    Picture is from a trip to Boise, Idaho before making those changes.

    Click For Full-Size Image.


    My current 1996 K3500 Suburban was ordered with the F60 option (snow plow prep), which is the 1 ton front torsion bars and the 14 bolt rear is the same as the dually's of that same year. Only difference is the leaf spring pack and brake cylinder & MC, which has been changed to that.

    Click For Full-Size Image.


    As for tire pump (12VDC, 150PSI), have this in the Suburban's tool box. Modified by changing out the power cord to 12Ga x about 20' Vulkin insulation...left over from work for a nuclear bridge crane for TVA


    Click For Full-Size Image.


    Have a 5HP, 2 stage, 40 gallon stationary compressor in the garage and this is my 5HP portable (wheelbarrow) air compressor for remodeling properties

    Click For Full-Size Image.


    Add that have towed too often a 14,000 lb trailer behind my old 1980 C10 Silverado Big Ten (the unicorn HD half ton of that era). Not just freeway, but out on the wind farms of Tehachapi & Altamont Pass with that setup.

    Done with this thread...
  • Grit_dog's avatar
    Grit_dog
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    Regarding air, if you’re just filling tires, your pancake will do the job as you’ve found.
    Note what pressure you need in the rear tires. It’s not 80psi or likely even close to it.
    My 37s only need about 45psi with the camper and the fronts don’t change.
    I bought a little Viair for filling my airbags as our 2016 doesn’t have onboard air like I had rigged off the exh brake on the old truck. It’s a small one and would get me out of the woods with a tire but not ideal, even the larger ones, for regular duty.
    Honestly, just go get a good size air compressor for the shop. Once you have one you’ll realize how handy it is!
  • Grit_dog's avatar
    Grit_dog
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    Nice setup!!
    Regarding maneuvering that big ole trailer in tight quarters, watch your tail swing and especially that ladder that sticks out on the other side.
    I been pulling about anything that will hitch to a pickup truck since about 1988 and I managed to smear the ladder against a bollard at a gas station 3rd time out! Original owner who used it once in 4 years also hit the ladder. It was tweaked when I bought it.
    Fortunately I was able to hammer the brackets and ladder back in shape and repair the ladder and trailer and reinstall. The one place I found a new ladder after searching, was about 5x as expensive as standard RV ladders.
  • ApexAZ's avatar
    ApexAZ
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    MFL wrote:
    OP...not sure which Dewalt pancake you have, but mine will get to 165 psi fairly quick, and capable of filling your tires easily. It is also lt wt, about 35 lbs.


    Mine is very similar and it will do 80 psi tires if I let it run between tires. It's just kinda bulky and don't necessarily want to haul it around. I can certainly fill my tires at home, but not sure when on the road. I found a product called Viair that are fairly compact that can do it, but they are like $300.
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    MFL
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    OP...not sure which Dewalt pancake you have, but mine will get to 165 psi fairly quick, and capable of filling your tires easily. It is also lt wt, about 35 lbs.

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    IdaD
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    Oct 28, 2021
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    I think it's worth keeping a 20-30 gallon compressor in the garage with a long hose that can stretch out. They do a lot better going up to higher pressures and I don't personally like running my rear tires at 80 unless I'm towing so it's convenient to be able to air up for a trip and then drop it back down when I get back. Plus the trailer tires need to be topped off semi-regularly.

    Nice setup. I haven't read through all of this thread but I think you are way below the point of stressing the truck at all even with the lift as long as your tires and wheels are up to it which I imagine is no issue.
  • blt2ski's avatar
    blt2ski
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    For filling tires, I've personally found it has more to do with tank size, assuming equal max pressure available from compressor. At some point in time small tank, compressor can't keep up.

    Pancake tanks are great for nail guns etc. BUT if running a say a ratchet wrench, filling tires. Not as doable.

    Marty
  • ApexAZ's avatar
    ApexAZ
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    Grit dog wrote:
    Apex,
    Trust your gut here and don't let the others over-complicate this for you. You pulled it, it handles good, end of story. Next step is tow it somewhere to enjoy some time with ZERO worry about your truck doing the job very well!


    Agree. Initially I was pretty nervous about it, but I got the WD set up and the truck seems to have no problem pulling it. I've been up and down from Phoenix to Payson and it performed great!

    My only worry right now is backing the thing up and getting it through the 10' gate where we are storing it lol. But practice makes perfect. We have a trip to a KOA RV resort in Tucson planned in December and we're excited for that!

    I also have a minor leak at the toilet and a weird furnace fan noise that I'm bringing it in for in a few weeks.

    By the way, I'll need to air up the tires. I have a DeWalt pancake compressor that can fill up to 80 psi (barely), but are there smaller portable compressors that can do this? I don't necessarily want to carry a heavy compressor around. What do people do to fill their tires?

    EDIT: Attached a pic of the truck (with kiddie tires) and trailer. I'll get one of both in a week or so.



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We just applied for financing on a 2021 Fuel F-287.

Assuming the loan gets approved, we should be picking the unit up on the 18th. I have a 2020 Denali 3500 SRW that I put a 4\" suspension lift and larger 35\" tires on, which put us just a wee bit too high to fit a 5th wheel, so we opted for a bumper pull.

A couple questions I have are:

My truck is rated at 20k conventional hitch weight with 2k tongue weight, and a CGVW of 29700. The trailer has a GVWR of 12,800 and I'm guessing the truck probably weighs in around 8500 curb weight (I plan to try and weigh it soon if I can find a place), which will put me at around 22.5k max combined weight when factoring in passengers and added cargo. Obviously the lift and bigger tires reduce capacity, but does anyone know just how much? I'll still be about 7k under the stock CGVW and conventional hitch figure.

Does anyone have a similar truck who have upgraded their brakes? Is this an option to improve stopping power?

I'm looking at the ProPride 3P hitch. Trailer sway makes me nervous and the lift compounds that. I'm hoping this will make towing safer. Anyone have experience with these and are they worth the $? If they work as advertised, it seems like money well spent for added safety. Any cons? It seems to add a few feet to overall length. Should I assume I'll need some air bags too?

I have seen several comments on various forums that people replace the stock hitch receiver with a class 5. In looking at some of those, the ratings are all very similar to that 2k/20k capacity, so I'm wondering if that's something I should worry about, or is the stock one already a class 5 and sufficient? I can't seem to find any info on the GMC pages.

Thanks so much!

Brian","body@stringLength":"1826","rawBody":"Hi all,

We just applied for financing on a 2021 Fuel F-287.

Assuming the loan gets approved, we should be picking the unit up on the 18th. I have a 2020 Denali 3500 SRW that I put a 4\" suspension lift and larger 35\" tires on, which put us just a wee bit too high to fit a 5th wheel, so we opted for a bumper pull.

A couple questions I have are:

My truck is rated at 20k conventional hitch weight with 2k tongue weight, and a CGVW of 29700. The trailer has a GVWR of 12,800 and I'm guessing the truck probably weighs in around 8500 curb weight (I plan to try and weigh it soon if I can find a place), which will put me at around 22.5k max combined weight when factoring in passengers and added cargo. Obviously the lift and bigger tires reduce capacity, but does anyone know just how much? I'll still be about 7k under the stock CGVW and conventional hitch figure.

Does anyone have a similar truck who have upgraded their brakes? Is this an option to improve stopping power?

I'm looking at the ProPride 3P hitch. Trailer sway makes me nervous and the lift compounds that. I'm hoping this will make towing safer. Anyone have experience with these and are they worth the $? If they work as advertised, it seems like money well spent for added safety. Any cons? It seems to add a few feet to overall length. Should I assume I'll need some air bags too?

I have seen several comments on various forums that people replace the stock hitch receiver with a class 5. In looking at some of those, the ratings are all very similar to that 2k/20k capacity, so I'm wondering if that's something I should worry about, or is the stock one already a class 5 and sufficient? I can't seem to find any info on the GMC pages.

Thanks so much!

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ApexAZ wrote:

EDIT: Attached a pic of the truck (with kiddie tires) and trailer. I'll get one of both in a week or so.



I'll see your \"kidde\" tires and raise you a set of \"infantile\" tires! LOL
On this scale, what would 40\" Swampers be? \"Pre-natal\" tires?



And some \"barely an itch in your daddy's shorts\" tires!




Also, your toilet leak, is it the supply line/valve dripping? Where it goes into the toilet. I had a drip there this year, appeared to be the valve leaking, replaced it and then found the connection was just loose. (Looked like it was coming from the push button end of the valve though)","body@stripHtml({\"removeProcessingText\":false,\"removeSpoilerMarkup\":false,\"removeTocMarkup\":false,\"truncateLength\":200})@stringLength":"203","kudosSumWeight":0,"repliesCount":0,"postTime":"2021-10-28T13:13:02.000-07:00","lastPublishTime":"2021-10-28T13:13:02.000-07:00","metrics":{"__typename":"MessageMetrics","views":779},"visibilityScope":"PUBLIC","placeholder":false,"originalMessageForPlaceholder":null,"isEscalated":null,"solution":false,"entityType":"FORUM_REPLY","eventPath":"category:RVTalk/community:feyqc97479board:RVTipsTricks/message:3563564/message:3563605","replies":{"__typename":"MessageConnection","pageInfo":{"__typename":"PageInfo","hasNextPage":false,"endCursor":null,"hasPreviousPage":false,"startCursor":null},"edges":[]},"readOnly":false,"editFrozen":false,"body@stringLength":"812","rawBody":"
ApexAZ wrote:

EDIT: Attached a pic of the truck (with kiddie tires) and trailer. I'll get one of both in a week or so.



I'll see your \"kidde\" tires and raise you a set of \"infantile\" tires! LOL
On this scale, what would 40\" Swampers be? \"Pre-natal\" tires?



And some \"barely an itch in your daddy's shorts\" tires!




Also, your toilet leak, is it the supply line/valve dripping? Where it goes into the toilet. I had a drip there this year, appeared to be the valve leaking, replaced it and then found the connection was just loose. (Looked like it was coming from the push button end of the valve though)","images":{"__typename":"AssociatedImageConnection","edges":[],"totalCount":0,"pageInfo":{"__typename":"PageInfo","hasNextPage":false,"endCursor":null,"hasPreviousPage":false,"startCursor":null}},"attachments":{"__typename":"AttachmentConnection","pageInfo":{"__typename":"PageInfo","hasNextPage":false,"endCursor":null,"hasPreviousPage":false,"startCursor":null},"edges":[]},"timeToRead":1,"currentRevision":{"__ref":"Revision:revision:3563605_1"},"latestVersion":null,"messagePolicies":{"__typename":"MessagePolicies","canModerateSpamMessage":{"__typename":"PolicyResult","failureReason":{"__typename":"FailureReason","message":"error.lithium.policies.feature.moderation_spam.action.moderate_entity.allowed.accessDenied","key":"error.lithium.policies.feature.moderation_spam.action.moderate_entity.allowed.accessDenied","args":[]}}},"customFields":[]},"ModerationData:moderation_data:3563604":{"__typename":"ModerationData","id":"moderation_data:3563604","status":"APPROVED","rejectReason":null,"isReportedAbuse":false,"rejectUser":null,"rejectTime":null,"rejectActorType":null},"ForumReplyMessage:message:3563604":{"__typename":"ForumReplyMessage","author":{"__ref":"User:user:227630"},"id":"message:3563604","revisionNum":1,"uid":3563604,"depth":1,"hasGivenKudo":false,"subscribed":false,"board":{"__ref":"Forum:board:RVTipsTricks"},"parent":{"__ref":"ForumTopicMessage:message:3563564"},"conversation":{"__ref":"Conversation:conversation:3563564"},"subject":"Re: ProPride and lifted 3500","moderationData":{"__ref":"ModerationData:moderation_data:3563604"},"body":"Shoot, Mr Benk, I know ya have a 1 ton Burb (very nice example of one at that), but to glom onto BackofthePack's diatribe, which I've read multiple times, pretty sure it's at the ready to cut n paste anytime, with minor modifications, and then talk about upgrading this n that on the OP's truck sure makes it sound like you don't understand the OP has a brand new, arguably the most capable srw truck on the road. With a 20klb bumper pull rating and a payload big enough to handle 3 of his tongue weights at the same time (not on the hitch of course, would over laod that rating...), why the fuss over track width due to a small lift and bigger sway bars, etc.
You said it yourself, dragging 14k behind a 70's technology half ton, what would give any pause or even remote need to upgrade ANYTHING on the OP's truck to pull half it's factory tow rating +/-?

While I'm sure it is meant to be helpful, I have to wonder how many \"newbies\" leave this forum to run down to the truck shop and do all kinds of needless \"upgrades\" to make the most capable, safest vehicles on the road, to date, even more \"safe\"?

I'm only trying to add an element of common sense and practicality to the plethora of \"recommendations\" that get posted here regularly, that are somewhere out in left field.

My opinion, your opinion, they differ.","body@stripHtml({\"removeProcessingText\":false,\"removeSpoilerMarkup\":false,\"removeTocMarkup\":false,\"truncateLength\":200})@stringLength":"203","kudosSumWeight":0,"repliesCount":0,"postTime":"2021-10-28T13:06:06.000-07:00","lastPublishTime":"2021-10-28T13:06:06.000-07:00","metrics":{"__typename":"MessageMetrics","views":779},"visibilityScope":"PUBLIC","placeholder":false,"originalMessageForPlaceholder":null,"isEscalated":null,"solution":false,"entityType":"FORUM_REPLY","eventPath":"category:RVTalk/community:feyqc97479board:RVTipsTricks/message:3563564/message:3563604","replies":{"__typename":"MessageConnection","pageInfo":{"__typename":"PageInfo","hasNextPage":false,"endCursor":null,"hasPreviousPage":false,"startCursor":null},"edges":[]},"readOnly":false,"editFrozen":false,"body@stringLength":"1356","rawBody":"Shoot, Mr Benk, I know ya have a 1 ton Burb (very nice example of one at that), but to glom onto BackofthePack's diatribe, which I've read multiple times, pretty sure it's at the ready to cut n paste anytime, with minor modifications, and then talk about upgrading this n that on the OP's truck sure makes it sound like you don't understand the OP has a brand new, arguably the most capable srw truck on the road. With a 20klb bumper pull rating and a payload big enough to handle 3 of his tongue weights at the same time (not on the hitch of course, would over laod that rating...), why the fuss over track width due to a small lift and bigger sway bars, etc.
You said it yourself, dragging 14k behind a 70's technology half ton, what would give any pause or even remote need to upgrade ANYTHING on the OP's truck to pull half it's factory tow rating +/-?

While I'm sure it is meant to be helpful, I have to wonder how many \"newbies\" leave this forum to run down to the truck shop and do all kinds of needless \"upgrades\" to make the most capable, safest vehicles on the road, to date, even more \"safe\"?

I'm only trying to add an element of common sense and practicality to the plethora of \"recommendations\" that get posted here regularly, that are somewhere out in left field.

My opinion, your opinion, they differ.","images":{"__typename":"AssociatedImageConnection","edges":[],"totalCount":0,"pageInfo":{"__typename":"PageInfo","hasNextPage":false,"endCursor":null,"hasPreviousPage":false,"startCursor":null}},"attachments":{"__typename":"AttachmentConnection","pageInfo":{"__typename":"PageInfo","hasNextPage":false,"endCursor":null,"hasPreviousPage":false,"startCursor":null},"edges":[]},"timeToRead":1,"currentRevision":{"__ref":"Revision:revision:3563604_1"},"latestVersion":null,"messagePolicies":{"__typename":"MessagePolicies","canModerateSpamMessage":{"__typename":"PolicyResult","failureReason":{"__typename":"FailureReason","message":"error.lithium.policies.feature.moderation_spam.action.moderate_entity.allowed.accessDenied","key":"error.lithium.policies.feature.moderation_spam.action.moderate_entity.allowed.accessDenied","args":[]}}},"customFields":[]},"User:user:237915":{"__typename":"User","id":"user:237915","uid":237915,"login":"BenK","biography":null,"registrationData":{"__typename":"RegistrationData","status":null,"registrationTime":"2002-04-18T11:36:55.000-07:00"},"deleted":false,"email":"","avatar":{"__typename":"UserAvatar","url":"https://community.goodsam.com/t5/s/feyqc97479/m_assets/avatars/default/avatar-9.svg?time=1737155183000"},"rank":{"__ref":"Rank:rank:42"},"entityType":"USER","eventPath":"community:feyqc97479/user:237915"},"ModerationData:moderation_data:3563603":{"__typename":"ModerationData","id":"moderation_data:3563603","status":"APPROVED","rejectReason":null,"isReportedAbuse":false,"rejectUser":null,"rejectTime":null,"rejectActorType":null},"ForumReplyMessage:message:3563603":{"__typename":"ForumReplyMessage","author":{"__ref":"User:user:237915"},"id":"message:3563603","revisionNum":1,"uid":3563603,"depth":1,"hasGivenKudo":false,"subscribed":false,"board":{"__ref":"Forum:board:RVTipsTricks"},"parent":{"__ref":"ForumTopicMessage:message:3563564"},"conversation":{"__ref":"Conversation:conversation:3563564"},"subject":"Re: ProPride and lifted 3500","moderationData":{"__ref":"ModerationData:moderation_data:3563603"},"body":"Well..kinda sorta have 1 ton truck experience...and add just for poops and giggles...have designed industrial disc brakes & wind generator disc brakes up to 48\" in dia...among many other things...


Did the work myself, installing a Dana 60 front and GM 14 bolt rear axles on my K5 Blazer, which are 1 ton axles. And the attendant stuff that goes with all of that upgrade. Like a 2\" lift kit and sandbar cage. Also changed out the 22 gallon main tank with an aftermarket 50 gallon main tank.

Didn't tow much with the K5 as knew short wheel based 4x4's & trucks didn't handle the trailer well in adverse condition as tried to tow with my 1970 FJ40. The pic was before deciding to tow with and added a receiver.

Picture is from a trip to Boise, Idaho before making those changes.

Click For Full-Size Image.


My current 1996 K3500 Suburban was ordered with the F60 option (snow plow prep), which is the 1 ton front torsion bars and the 14 bolt rear is the same as the dually's of that same year. Only difference is the leaf spring pack and brake cylinder & MC, which has been changed to that.

Click For Full-Size Image.


As for tire pump (12VDC, 150PSI), have this in the Suburban's tool box. Modified by changing out the power cord to 12Ga x about 20' Vulkin insulation...left over from work for a nuclear bridge crane for TVA


Click For Full-Size Image.


Have a 5HP, 2 stage, 40 gallon stationary compressor in the garage and this is my 5HP portable (wheelbarrow) air compressor for remodeling properties

Click For Full-Size Image.


Add that have towed too often a 14,000 lb trailer behind my old 1980 C10 Silverado Big Ten (the unicorn HD half ton of that era). Not just freeway, but out on the wind farms of Tehachapi & Altamont Pass with that setup.

Done with this thread...","body@stripHtml({\"removeProcessingText\":false,\"removeSpoilerMarkup\":false,\"removeTocMarkup\":false,\"truncateLength\":200})@stringLength":"207","kudosSumWeight":0,"repliesCount":0,"postTime":"2021-10-28T11:02:08.000-07:00","lastPublishTime":"2021-10-28T11:02:08.000-07:00","metrics":{"__typename":"MessageMetrics","views":779},"visibilityScope":"PUBLIC","placeholder":false,"originalMessageForPlaceholder":null,"isEscalated":null,"solution":false,"entityType":"FORUM_REPLY","eventPath":"category:RVTalk/community:feyqc97479board:RVTipsTricks/message:3563564/message:3563603","replies":{"__typename":"MessageConnection","pageInfo":{"__typename":"PageInfo","hasNextPage":false,"endCursor":null,"hasPreviousPage":false,"startCursor":null},"edges":[]},"readOnly":false,"editFrozen":false,"body@stringLength":"3179","rawBody":"Well..kinda sorta have 1 ton truck experience...and add just for poops and giggles...have designed industrial disc brakes & wind generator disc brakes up to 48\" in dia...among many other things...


Did the work myself, installing a Dana 60 front and GM 14 bolt rear axles on my K5 Blazer, which are 1 ton axles. And the attendant stuff that goes with all of that upgrade. Like a 2\" lift kit and sandbar cage. Also changed out the 22 gallon main tank with an aftermarket 50 gallon main tank.

Didn't tow much with the K5 as knew short wheel based 4x4's & trucks didn't handle the trailer well in adverse condition as tried to tow with my 1970 FJ40. The pic was before deciding to tow with and added a receiver.

Picture is from a trip to Boise, Idaho before making those changes.

Click For Full-Size Image.


My current 1996 K3500 Suburban was ordered with the F60 option (snow plow prep), which is the 1 ton front torsion bars and the 14 bolt rear is the same as the dually's of that same year. Only difference is the leaf spring pack and brake cylinder & MC, which has been changed to that.

Click For Full-Size Image.


As for tire pump (12VDC, 150PSI), have this in the Suburban's tool box. Modified by changing out the power cord to 12Ga x about 20' Vulkin insulation...left over from work for a nuclear bridge crane for TVA


Click For Full-Size Image.


Have a 5HP, 2 stage, 40 gallon stationary compressor in the garage and this is my 5HP portable (wheelbarrow) air compressor for remodeling properties

Click For Full-Size Image.


Add that have towed too often a 14,000 lb trailer behind my old 1980 C10 Silverado Big Ten (the unicorn HD half ton of that era). Not just freeway, but out on the wind farms of Tehachapi & Altamont Pass with that setup.

Done with this thread...","images":{"__typename":"AssociatedImageConnection","edges":[],"totalCount":0,"pageInfo":{"__typename":"PageInfo","hasNextPage":false,"endCursor":null,"hasPreviousPage":false,"startCursor":null}},"attachments":{"__typename":"AttachmentConnection","pageInfo":{"__typename":"PageInfo","hasNextPage":false,"endCursor":null,"hasPreviousPage":false,"startCursor":null},"edges":[]},"timeToRead":2,"currentRevision":{"__ref":"Revision:revision:3563603_1"},"latestVersion":null,"messagePolicies":{"__typename":"MessagePolicies","canModerateSpamMessage":{"__typename":"PolicyResult","failureReason":{"__typename":"FailureReason","message":"error.lithium.policies.feature.moderation_spam.action.moderate_entity.allowed.accessDenied","key":"error.lithium.policies.feature.moderation_spam.action.moderate_entity.allowed.accessDenied","args":[]}}},"customFields":[]},"ModerationData:moderation_data:3563602":{"__typename":"ModerationData","id":"moderation_data:3563602","status":"APPROVED","rejectReason":null,"isReportedAbuse":false,"rejectUser":null,"rejectTime":null,"rejectActorType":null},"ForumReplyMessage:message:3563602":{"__typename":"ForumReplyMessage","author":{"__ref":"User:user:227630"},"id":"message:3563602","revisionNum":1,"uid":3563602,"depth":1,"hasGivenKudo":false,"subscribed":false,"board":{"__ref":"Forum:board:RVTipsTricks"},"parent":{"__ref":"ForumTopicMessage:message:3563564"},"conversation":{"__ref":"Conversation:conversation:3563564"},"subject":"Re: ProPride and lifted 3500","moderationData":{"__ref":"ModerationData:moderation_data:3563602"},"body":"Regarding air, if you’re just filling tires, your pancake will do the job as you’ve found.
Note what pressure you need in the rear tires. It’s not 80psi or likely even close to it.
My 37s only need about 45psi with the camper and the fronts don’t change.
I bought a little Viair for filling my airbags as our 2016 doesn’t have onboard air like I had rigged off the exh brake on the old truck. It’s a small one and would get me out of the woods with a tire but not ideal, even the larger ones, for regular duty.
Honestly, just go get a good size air compressor for the shop. Once you have one you’ll realize how handy it is!","body@stripHtml({\"removeProcessingText\":false,\"removeSpoilerMarkup\":false,\"removeTocMarkup\":false,\"truncateLength\":200})@stringLength":"203","kudosSumWeight":0,"repliesCount":0,"postTime":"2021-10-28T10:27:55.000-07:00","lastPublishTime":"2021-10-28T10:27:55.000-07:00","metrics":{"__typename":"MessageMetrics","views":780},"visibilityScope":"PUBLIC","placeholder":false,"originalMessageForPlaceholder":null,"isEscalated":null,"solution":false,"entityType":"FORUM_REPLY","eventPath":"category:RVTalk/community:feyqc97479board:RVTipsTricks/message:3563564/message:3563602","replies":{"__typename":"MessageConnection","pageInfo":{"__typename":"PageInfo","hasNextPage":false,"endCursor":null,"hasPreviousPage":false,"startCursor":null},"edges":[]},"readOnly":false,"editFrozen":false,"body@stringLength":"648","rawBody":"Regarding air, if you’re just filling tires, your pancake will do the job as you’ve found.
Note what pressure you need in the rear tires. It’s not 80psi or likely even close to it.
My 37s only need about 45psi with the camper and the fronts don’t change.
I bought a little Viair for filling my airbags as our 2016 doesn’t have onboard air like I had rigged off the exh brake on the old truck. It’s a small one and would get me out of the woods with a tire but not ideal, even the larger ones, for regular duty.
Honestly, just go get a good size air compressor for the shop. Once you have one you’ll realize how handy it is!","images":{"__typename":"AssociatedImageConnection","edges":[],"totalCount":0,"pageInfo":{"__typename":"PageInfo","hasNextPage":false,"endCursor":null,"hasPreviousPage":false,"startCursor":null}},"attachments":{"__typename":"AttachmentConnection","pageInfo":{"__typename":"PageInfo","hasNextPage":false,"endCursor":null,"hasPreviousPage":false,"startCursor":null},"edges":[]},"timeToRead":1,"currentRevision":{"__ref":"Revision:revision:3563602_1"},"latestVersion":null,"messagePolicies":{"__typename":"MessagePolicies","canModerateSpamMessage":{"__typename":"PolicyResult","failureReason":{"__typename":"FailureReason","message":"error.lithium.policies.feature.moderation_spam.action.moderate_entity.allowed.accessDenied","key":"error.lithium.policies.feature.moderation_spam.action.moderate_entity.allowed.accessDenied","args":[]}}},"customFields":[]},"ModerationData:moderation_data:3563601":{"__typename":"ModerationData","id":"moderation_data:3563601","status":"APPROVED","rejectReason":null,"isReportedAbuse":false,"rejectUser":null,"rejectTime":null,"rejectActorType":null},"ForumReplyMessage:message:3563601":{"__typename":"ForumReplyMessage","author":{"__ref":"User:user:227630"},"id":"message:3563601","revisionNum":1,"uid":3563601,"depth":1,"hasGivenKudo":false,"subscribed":false,"board":{"__ref":"Forum:board:RVTipsTricks"},"parent":{"__ref":"ForumTopicMessage:message:3563564"},"conversation":{"__ref":"Conversation:conversation:3563564"},"subject":"Re: ProPride and lifted 3500","moderationData":{"__ref":"ModerationData:moderation_data:3563601"},"body":"Nice setup!!
Regarding maneuvering that big ole trailer in tight quarters, watch your tail swing and especially that ladder that sticks out on the other side.
I been pulling about anything that will hitch to a pickup truck since about 1988 and I managed to smear the ladder against a bollard at a gas station 3rd time out! Original owner who used it once in 4 years also hit the ladder. It was tweaked when I bought it.
Fortunately I was able to hammer the brackets and ladder back in shape and repair the ladder and trailer and reinstall. The one place I found a new ladder after searching, was about 5x as expensive as standard RV ladders.","body@stripHtml({\"removeProcessingText\":false,\"removeSpoilerMarkup\":false,\"removeTocMarkup\":false,\"truncateLength\":200})@stringLength":"203","kudosSumWeight":0,"repliesCount":0,"postTime":"2021-10-28T10:23:10.000-07:00","lastPublishTime":"2021-10-28T10:23:10.000-07:00","metrics":{"__typename":"MessageMetrics","views":494},"visibilityScope":"PUBLIC","placeholder":false,"originalMessageForPlaceholder":null,"isEscalated":null,"solution":false,"entityType":"FORUM_REPLY","eventPath":"category:RVTalk/community:feyqc97479board:RVTipsTricks/message:3563564/message:3563601","replies":{"__typename":"MessageConnection","pageInfo":{"__typename":"PageInfo","hasNextPage":false,"endCursor":null,"hasPreviousPage":false,"startCursor":null},"edges":[]},"readOnly":false,"editFrozen":false,"body@stringLength":"659","rawBody":"Nice setup!!
Regarding maneuvering that big ole trailer in tight quarters, watch your tail swing and especially that ladder that sticks out on the other side.
I been pulling about anything that will hitch to a pickup truck since about 1988 and I managed to smear the ladder against a bollard at a gas station 3rd time out! Original owner who used it once in 4 years also hit the ladder. It was tweaked when I bought it.
Fortunately I was able to hammer the brackets and ladder back in shape and repair the ladder and trailer and reinstall. The one place I found a new ladder after searching, was about 5x as expensive as standard RV ladders.","images":{"__typename":"AssociatedImageConnection","edges":[],"totalCount":0,"pageInfo":{"__typename":"PageInfo","hasNextPage":false,"endCursor":null,"hasPreviousPage":false,"startCursor":null}},"attachments":{"__typename":"AttachmentConnection","pageInfo":{"__typename":"PageInfo","hasNextPage":false,"endCursor":null,"hasPreviousPage":false,"startCursor":null},"edges":[]},"timeToRead":1,"currentRevision":{"__ref":"Revision:revision:3563601_1"},"latestVersion":null,"messagePolicies":{"__typename":"MessagePolicies","canModerateSpamMessage":{"__typename":"PolicyResult","failureReason":{"__typename":"FailureReason","message":"error.lithium.policies.feature.moderation_spam.action.moderate_entity.allowed.accessDenied","key":"error.lithium.policies.feature.moderation_spam.action.moderate_entity.allowed.accessDenied","args":[]}}},"customFields":[]},"ModerationData:moderation_data:3563600":{"__typename":"ModerationData","id":"moderation_data:3563600","status":"APPROVED","rejectReason":null,"isReportedAbuse":false,"rejectUser":null,"rejectTime":null,"rejectActorType":null},"ForumReplyMessage:message:3563600":{"__typename":"ForumReplyMessage","author":{"__ref":"User:user:369"},"id":"message:3563600","revisionNum":1,"uid":3563600,"depth":1,"hasGivenKudo":false,"subscribed":false,"board":{"__ref":"Forum:board:RVTipsTricks"},"parent":{"__ref":"ForumTopicMessage:message:3563564"},"conversation":{"__ref":"Conversation:conversation:3563564"},"subject":"Re: ProPride and lifted 3500","moderationData":{"__ref":"ModerationData:moderation_data:3563600"},"body":"
MFL wrote:
OP...not sure which Dewalt pancake you have, but mine will get to 165 psi fairly quick, and capable of filling your tires easily. It is also lt wt, about 35 lbs.


Mine is very similar and it will do 80 psi tires if I let it run between tires. It's just kinda bulky and don't necessarily want to haul it around. I can certainly fill my tires at home, but not sure when on the road. I found a product called Viair that are fairly compact that can do it, but they are like $300.","body@stripHtml({\"removeProcessingText\":false,\"removeSpoilerMarkup\":false,\"removeTocMarkup\":false,\"truncateLength\":200})@stringLength":"203","kudosSumWeight":0,"repliesCount":0,"postTime":"2021-10-28T09:11:17.000-07:00","lastPublishTime":"2021-10-28T09:11:17.000-07:00","metrics":{"__typename":"MessageMetrics","views":420},"visibilityScope":"PUBLIC","placeholder":false,"originalMessageForPlaceholder":null,"isEscalated":null,"solution":false,"entityType":"FORUM_REPLY","eventPath":"category:RVTalk/community:feyqc97479board:RVTipsTricks/message:3563564/message:3563600","replies":{"__typename":"MessageConnection","pageInfo":{"__typename":"PageInfo","hasNextPage":false,"endCursor":null,"hasPreviousPage":false,"startCursor":null},"edges":[]},"readOnly":false,"editFrozen":false,"body@stringLength":"535","rawBody":"
MFL wrote:
OP...not sure which Dewalt pancake you have, but mine will get to 165 psi fairly quick, and capable of filling your tires easily. It is also lt wt, about 35 lbs.


Mine is very similar and it will do 80 psi tires if I let it run between tires. It's just kinda bulky and don't necessarily want to haul it around. I can certainly fill my tires at home, but not sure when on the road. I found a product called Viair that are fairly compact that can do it, but they are like $300.","images":{"__typename":"AssociatedImageConnection","edges":[],"totalCount":0,"pageInfo":{"__typename":"PageInfo","hasNextPage":false,"endCursor":null,"hasPreviousPage":false,"startCursor":null}},"attachments":{"__typename":"AttachmentConnection","pageInfo":{"__typename":"PageInfo","hasNextPage":false,"endCursor":null,"hasPreviousPage":false,"startCursor":null},"edges":[]},"timeToRead":1,"currentRevision":{"__ref":"Revision:revision:3563600_1"},"latestVersion":null,"messagePolicies":{"__typename":"MessagePolicies","canModerateSpamMessage":{"__typename":"PolicyResult","failureReason":{"__typename":"FailureReason","message":"error.lithium.policies.feature.moderation_spam.action.moderate_entity.allowed.accessDenied","key":"error.lithium.policies.feature.moderation_spam.action.moderate_entity.allowed.accessDenied","args":[]}}},"customFields":[]},"Rank:rank:38":{"__typename":"Rank","id":"rank:38","position":27,"name":"Nomad II","color":"333333","icon":null,"rankStyle":"TEXT"},"User:user:839":{"__typename":"User","id":"user:839","uid":839,"login":"MFL","biography":null,"registrationData":{"__typename":"RegistrationData","status":null,"registrationTime":"2012-11-28T16:31:49.000-08:00"},"deleted":false,"email":"","avatar":{"__typename":"UserAvatar","url":"https://community.goodsam.com/t5/s/feyqc97479/m_assets/avatars/default/avatar-12.svg?time=1737155183000"},"rank":{"__ref":"Rank:rank:38"},"entityType":"USER","eventPath":"community:feyqc97479/user:839"},"ModerationData:moderation_data:3563599":{"__typename":"ModerationData","id":"moderation_data:3563599","status":"APPROVED","rejectReason":null,"isReportedAbuse":false,"rejectUser":null,"rejectTime":null,"rejectActorType":null},"ForumReplyMessage:message:3563599":{"__typename":"ForumReplyMessage","author":{"__ref":"User:user:839"},"id":"message:3563599","revisionNum":1,"uid":3563599,"depth":1,"hasGivenKudo":false,"subscribed":false,"board":{"__ref":"Forum:board:RVTipsTricks"},"parent":{"__ref":"ForumTopicMessage:message:3563564"},"conversation":{"__ref":"Conversation:conversation:3563564"},"subject":"Re: ProPride and lifted 3500","moderationData":{"__ref":"ModerationData:moderation_data:3563599"},"body":"OP...not sure which Dewalt pancake you have, but mine will get to 165 psi fairly quick, and capable of filling your tires easily. It is also lt wt, about 35 lbs.

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Nice setup. I haven't read through all of this thread but I think you are way below the point of stressing the truck at all even with the lift as long as your tires and wheels are up to it which I imagine is no issue.","body@stripHtml({\"removeProcessingText\":false,\"removeSpoilerMarkup\":false,\"removeTocMarkup\":false,\"truncateLength\":200})@stringLength":"203","kudosSumWeight":0,"repliesCount":0,"postTime":"2021-10-28T06:34:00.000-07:00","lastPublishTime":"2021-10-28T06:34:00.000-07:00","metrics":{"__typename":"MessageMetrics","views":419},"visibilityScope":"PUBLIC","placeholder":false,"originalMessageForPlaceholder":null,"isEscalated":null,"solution":false,"entityType":"FORUM_REPLY","eventPath":"category:RVTalk/community:feyqc97479board:RVTipsTricks/message:3563564/message:3563598","replies":{"__typename":"MessageConnection","pageInfo":{"__typename":"PageInfo","hasNextPage":false,"endCursor":null,"hasPreviousPage":false,"startCursor":null},"edges":[]},"readOnly":false,"editFrozen":false,"body@stringLength":"619","rawBody":"I think it's worth keeping a 20-30 gallon compressor in the garage with a long hose that can stretch out. They do a lot better going up to higher pressures and I don't personally like running my rear tires at 80 unless I'm towing so it's convenient to be able to air up for a trip and then drop it back down when I get back. Plus the trailer tires need to be topped off semi-regularly.

Nice setup. I haven't read through all of this thread but I think you are way below the point of stressing the truck at all even with the lift as long as your tires and wheels are up to it which I imagine is no issue.","images":{"__typename":"AssociatedImageConnection","edges":[],"totalCount":0,"pageInfo":{"__typename":"PageInfo","hasNextPage":false,"endCursor":null,"hasPreviousPage":false,"startCursor":null}},"attachments":{"__typename":"AttachmentConnection","pageInfo":{"__typename":"PageInfo","hasNextPage":false,"endCursor":null,"hasPreviousPage":false,"startCursor":null},"edges":[]},"timeToRead":1,"currentRevision":{"__ref":"Revision:revision:3563598_1"},"latestVersion":null,"messagePolicies":{"__typename":"MessagePolicies","canModerateSpamMessage":{"__typename":"PolicyResult","failureReason":{"__typename":"FailureReason","message":"error.lithium.policies.feature.moderation_spam.action.moderate_entity.allowed.accessDenied","key":"error.lithium.policies.feature.moderation_spam.action.moderate_entity.allowed.accessDenied","args":[]}}},"customFields":[]},"Rank:rank:49":{"__typename":"Rank","id":"rank:49","position":1,"name":"Moderator","color":"333333","icon":null,"rankStyle":"TEXT"},"User:user:201204":{"__typename":"User","id":"user:201204","uid":201204,"login":"blt2ski","biography":null,"registrationData":{"__typename":"RegistrationData","status":null,"registrationTime":"2001-03-15T19:54:11.000-08:00"},"deleted":false,"email":"","avatar":{"__typename":"UserAvatar","url":"https://community.goodsam.com/t5/s/feyqc97479/m_assets/avatars/default/avatar-4.svg?time=1737155183000"},"rank":{"__ref":"Rank:rank:49"},"entityType":"USER","eventPath":"community:feyqc97479/user:201204"},"ModerationData:moderation_data:3563597":{"__typename":"ModerationData","id":"moderation_data:3563597","status":"APPROVED","rejectReason":null,"isReportedAbuse":false,"rejectUser":null,"rejectTime":null,"rejectActorType":null},"ForumReplyMessage:message:3563597":{"__typename":"ForumReplyMessage","author":{"__ref":"User:user:201204"},"id":"message:3563597","revisionNum":1,"uid":3563597,"depth":1,"hasGivenKudo":false,"subscribed":false,"board":{"__ref":"Forum:board:RVTipsTricks"},"parent":{"__ref":"ForumTopicMessage:message:3563564"},"conversation":{"__ref":"Conversation:conversation:3563564"},"subject":"Re: ProPride and lifted 3500","moderationData":{"__ref":"ModerationData:moderation_data:3563597"},"body":"For filling tires, I've personally found it has more to do with tank size, assuming equal max pressure available from compressor. At some point in time small tank, compressor can't keep up.

Pancake tanks are great for nail guns etc. BUT if running a say a ratchet wrench, filling tires. Not as doable.

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Pancake tanks are great for nail guns etc. BUT if running a say a ratchet wrench, filling tires. Not as doable.

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Grit dog wrote:
Apex,
Trust your gut here and don't let the others over-complicate this for you. You pulled it, it handles good, end of story. Next step is tow it somewhere to enjoy some time with ZERO worry about your truck doing the job very well!


Agree. Initially I was pretty nervous about it, but I got the WD set up and the truck seems to have no problem pulling it. I've been up and down from Phoenix to Payson and it performed great!

My only worry right now is backing the thing up and getting it through the 10' gate where we are storing it lol. But practice makes perfect. We have a trip to a KOA RV resort in Tucson planned in December and we're excited for that!

I also have a minor leak at the toilet and a weird furnace fan noise that I'm bringing it in for in a few weeks.

By the way, I'll need to air up the tires. I have a DeWalt pancake compressor that can fill up to 80 psi (barely), but are there smaller portable compressors that can do this? I don't necessarily want to carry a heavy compressor around. What do people do to fill their tires?

EDIT: Attached a pic of the truck (with kiddie tires) and trailer. I'll get one of both in a week or so.



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Grit dog wrote:
Apex,
Trust your gut here and don't let the others over-complicate this for you. You pulled it, it handles good, end of story. Next step is tow it somewhere to enjoy some time with ZERO worry about your truck doing the job very well!


Agree. Initially I was pretty nervous about it, but I got the WD set up and the truck seems to have no problem pulling it. I've been up and down from Phoenix to Payson and it performed great!

My only worry right now is backing the thing up and getting it through the 10' gate where we are storing it lol. But practice makes perfect. We have a trip to a KOA RV resort in Tucson planned in December and we're excited for that!

I also have a minor leak at the toilet and a weird furnace fan noise that I'm bringing it in for in a few weeks.

By the way, I'll need to air up the tires. I have a DeWalt pancake compressor that can fill up to 80 psi (barely), but are there smaller portable compressors that can do this? I don't necessarily want to carry a heavy compressor around. What do people do to fill their tires?

EDIT: Attached a pic of the truck (with kiddie tires) and trailer. I'll get one of both in a week or so.



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