Ram tow ratings

rhagfo wrote:

Cummins12V98 wrote:
Personally I don't plan on ever entering a NOT SO Smart car. All I know is who will win if I have a head on with one.

While I would not think about one, I did see a crash test of one and to say the least impressive
Crash Test 1

This is 5th gears 70 mph crash test.

Smart Car 70 mph crash test

Well, it would be big enough to bury me in..Don't ant no part of a car that is that small no matter test results...I'd have no faith in it..no where to carry much, and dies it go well in the snow? I've seen prices on these little cars and the manufacturer is REALLY proud of them...too much to pay for no more than you're getting.

Cummins12V98 wrote:
Personally I don't plan on ever entering a NOT SO Smart car. All I know is who will win if I have a head on with one.

While I would not think about one, I did see a crash test of one and to say the least impressive
Crash Test 1

This is 5th gears 70 mph crash test.

Smart Car 70 mph crash test

Personally I don't plan on ever entering a NOT SO Smart car. All I know is who will win if I have a head on with one.

Cummins12V98 wrote:


Don't forget the safety factor! A lot of HDT people load a "NOT SO SMART" car on the back thinking they are saving money and the world.

That is the car most commonly mentioned by them...just barely big enough for two adults..We got 2 boxers....They don't want to mention cost of car, of insurance, fuel and maintenance...

I've been in them and don't really feel all that safe inside them...too little for much use

NC Hauler wrote:

tinner12002 wrote:

NC Hauler wrote:


..Been driving light duty trucks since 75'.. Never drove MDT or a HDT for a living, but have driven some and even came close to purchasing one some years back..Been in Manufacturing since 1975...and 2 years before that...68-71...You either read wrong or have me confused with someone else:h

I was arguing that you don't need a HDT now a days since from 13 and on up, 1 ton dually's can tow heavy also..up to their recommended towing weights.





Jim

I'm sure our 1 tons are cheaper to insure, plate, fuel, drive, park and repair if needed and I bet more fun to drive in addition to being plenty capable of towing nearly any 5th wheel RV out there!!

I personally agree with you on this, but they'll be HDH's/HDT's that will HGHLY disagree because they are behind the times and don't know or understand the capabilities of the new/newer 1 ton Dually's from 2013 and up..


I don't know how they figure "cheaper" for the HDT when MOST of them have purchased ANOTHER car to drive around instead of the semi...cost of the car/insurance/fuel and maintenance.. and then same for the HDT...If I were going to tow a 25-30# 5er, (though, supposedly, my truck could do that.)..I wouldn't buy the 5er... MOST people don't want a semi cab towing 5er's that only have a GVWR of 15K-25K( some HDT's on escapees forum SWEAR YOU HAVE TI HAVE A HDT to tow a 16K GVW 5er:h..

It's so much nicer with a truck you can drive everywhere you want to go, take it to work, haul stuff in the bed, drive it to church or go sight seeing in it and use it in 4 wheel drive and be safe about it when needed.

Some need to wake up and "smell the coffee":B

Don't forget the safety factor! A lot of HDT people load a "NOT SO SMART" car on the back thinking they are saving money and the world.

W5CI wrote:
I have a RAM 3500 DRW diesel and I think anyone who has one shouldn't worry about towing a fifth wheel try with it, there are so many variables that it would take a rocket scientist to figure the tow rating, IMHO

My own personal opinion is that it is quite easy to figure out what one can tow..You are given GVWR, RAWR, GCWR...That's a lot of info that is extremely important..at least in my opinion...If I know the GVW of the 5er, I'm WAY ahead of the game and can "ballpark" pin weight fairly close, (Based on 20% of 5er GVW).


Not really "that" many variables with all the important "known" facts that are at hand..Weighing the truck ready to tow, but not hooked up is yet another tool to figure out how much pin weight your truck can handle safely...This is what I've used for years to figure out how much truck I needed to tow what I wanted to camp in.

Jim

I have a RAM 3500 DRW diesel and I think anyone who has one shouldn't worry about towing a fifth wheel trl with it, there are so many variables that it would take a rocket sientist to figure the tow rating, IMHO

tinner12002 wrote:

NC Hauler wrote:


..Been driving light duty trucks since 75'.. Never drove MDT or a HDT for a living, but have driven some and even came close to purchasing one some years back..Been in Manufacturing since 1975...and 2 years before that...68-71...You either read wrong or have me confused with someone else:h

I was arguing that you don't need a HDT now a days since from 13 and on up, 1 ton dually's can tow heavy also..up to their recommended towing weights.





Jim

I'm sure our 1 tons are cheaper to insure, plate, fuel, drive, park and repair if needed and I bet more fun to drive in addition to being plenty capable of towing nearly any 5th wheel RV out there!!

I personally agree with you on this, but they'll be HDH's/HDT's that will HGHLY disagree because they are behind the times and don't know or understand the capabilities of the new/newer 1 ton Dually's from 2013 and up..


I don't know how they figure "cheaper" for the HDT when MOST of them have purchased ANOTHER car to drive around instead of the semi...cost of the car/insurance/fuel and maintenance.. and then same for the HDT...If I were going to tow a 25-30# 5er, (though, supposedly, my truck could do that.)..I wouldn't buy the 5er... MOST people don't want a semi cab towing 5er's that only have a GVWR of 15K-25K( some HDT's on escapees forum SWEAR YOU HAVE TI HAVE A HDT to tow a 16K GVW 5er:h..

It's so much nicer with a truck you can drive everywhere you want to go, take it to work, haul stuff in the bed, drive it to church or go sight seeing in it and use it in 4 wheel drive and be safe about it when needed.

Some need to wake up and "smell the coffee":B

NC Hauler wrote:


..Been driving light duty trucks since 75'.. Never drove MDT or a HDT for a living, but have driven some and even came close to purchasing one some years back..Been in Manufacturing since 1975...and 2 years before that...68-71...You either read wrong or have me confused with someone else:h

I was arguing that you don't need a HDT now a days since from 13 and on up, 1 ton dually's can tow heavy also..up to their recommended towing weights.





Jim

I'm sure our 1 tons are cheaper to insure, plate, fuel, drive, park and repair if needed and I bet more fun to drive in addition to being plenty capable of towing nearly any 5th wheel RV out there!!

R. Walter wrote:

NC Hauler wrote:
Ben, time fly's...whether we're having fun or not...Spent 12 years with Ingersoll Rand Mining Machinery, 5 and a 1/2 years with Hercules and the last 23 with Continental Automotive, Started as an Engineer, been in R & D with two companies, been a MaintenanceSupervisor.. Machining Supervisor and Assembly Supervisor with this Company...EVERYTHING I've been involved with had STRINGENT guidelines and all erred to the side of Safety first, then Quality. when you're talking about ABS, brake calipers, explosives and underground mining equipment...specs and guidelines, and understanding the manufacturing process is key, and if any of this fails, we;re talking life and death..so I've NEVER taking manufacturers recommendations lightly, nor have I added to, or taken away from them

"If all else fails, read the instructions":B


We going have to meet up sometime, somewhere..believe we could tell some stories...I retire end of July...may happen one day buddy.

Jim

I must have read wrong, but on one of these threads I thought you said you were a truck driver.

..Been driving light duty trucks since 75'.. Never drove MDT or a HDT for a living, but have driven some and even came close to purchasing one some years back..Been in Manufacturing since 1975...and 2 years before that...68-71...You either read wrong or have me confused with someone else:h

I was arguing that you don't need a HDT now a days since from 13 and on up, 1 ton dually's can tow heavy also..up to their recommended towing weights.




Jim