Registering 1-ton Truck in KS

Grit dog wrote:
KS DMV website has a property tax calculator.
Gets you the tax required annually.
I plugged in a 2018 3500HD and got ~$700 tax and 2014 3500HD and got ~$400 tax.

Good to know. Thx! Would have been nice if the KS DMV CS rep would have mentioned that when I called.

Just make sure it has been licensed in another state. Kansas sales tax is high (10% in some locales). $6000 on a $60,000 truck! We own land in other states so we register them the first year there.

The problem is most motor vehicle clerks are not aware of a provision in the statute that exempts trucks that are used for pulling an RV from the higher commercial weights. A truck is supposed to be tagged for hte combination weight of the truck and what it is towing. It doesn't take a very large RV to get over the 16/20,000 pound commercial weight limit. So they will try to charge you the higher 16/20 fees which are payable in January each year. With the RV exemption, you pay standard vehicle tag fees in the month you renew your other vehicle tags.

When we first got our 2010 diesel pickup, they charged us the higher commercial rate. When it came time to renew, I took a copy of the statute with me and the motor vehicle clerk still didn't believe me. Finally I said, renew as a non commercial vehicle and I will contest that it is the correct tagging if I am ever stopped. In the six years since, we have never been questioned. But to be on the safe side, I carry a copy of the statute with the exemption phrase highlighted in the packet with my registration and insurance info. So our tag says 24,000 but we are tagged at the non business rate. Hope this helps.

jrs1871 wrote:
The problem is most motor vehicle clerks are not aware of a provision in the statute that exempts trucks that are used for pulling an RV from the higher commercial weights. A truck is supposed to be tagged for hte combination weight of the truck and what it is towing. It doesn't take a very large RV to get over the 16/20,000 pound commercial weight limit. So they will try to charge you the higher 16/20 fees which are payable in January each year. With the RV exemption, you pay standard vehicle tag fees in the month you renew your other vehicle tags.

When we first got our 2010 diesel pickup, they charged us the higher commercial rate. When it came time to renew, I took a copy of the statute with me and the motor vehicle clerk still didn't believe me. Finally I said, renew as a non commercial vehicle and I will contest that it is the correct tagging if I am ever stopped. In the six years since, we have never been questioned. But to be on the safe side, I carry a copy of the statute with the exemption phrase highlighted in the packet with my registration and insurance info. So our tag says 24,000 but we are tagged at the non business rate. Hope this helps.

Didn't know about the "RV exemption", thanks!

Did finally determine what property tax we'll pay to register our 1-ton truck in KS. It's very similar to what we pay in AZ. Still have no idea about the title/registration/tags costs. When I visited the KS DMV website it was hard to tell whether a 10,000+ GVWR alone gets you qualified as a commercial vehicle, or whether it's a combination of GVWR and a specific use. Guess I'll try the RV exemption you suggested and see how that goes. Thanks again.

ksbowman wrote:
Just make sure it has been licensed in another state. Kansas sales tax is high (10% in some locales). $6000 on a $60,000 truck! We own land in other states so we register them the first year there.

Thanks. Does KS charge sales tax on a private-party to private-party used vehicle sale?

otrfun wrote:

ksbowman wrote:
Just make sure it has been licensed in another state. Kansas sales tax is high (10% in some locales). $6000 on a $60,000 truck! We own land in other states so we register them the first year there.

Thanks. Does KS charge sales tax on a private-party to private-party used vehicle sale?

Yes

The statute that covers the recreational vehicle exemption is 8-143(5)(b)(1).

otrfun wrote:

ksbowman wrote:
Just make sure it has been licensed in another state. Kansas sales tax is high (10% in some locales). $6000 on a $60,000 truck! We own land in other states so we register them the first year there.

Thanks. Does KS charge sales tax on a private-party to private-party used vehicle sale?

Yes, not only do they charge sales tax on private party to private party but, if the amount sounds too low they have a set amount of what the vehicle should sell for and will charge you for that rate. Our last truck (diesel & used) was $1700 cheaper registered at our Missouri home than our Kansas home. Also, Missouri personal property tax is not charged till the following licensing year.

ksbowman wrote:

otrfun wrote:

ksbowman wrote:
Just make sure it has been licensed in another state. Kansas sales tax is high (10% in some locales). $6000 on a $60,000 truck! We own land in other states so we register them the first year there.

Thanks. Does KS charge sales tax on a private-party to private-party used vehicle sale?

Yes, not only do they charge sales tax on private party to private party but, if the amount sounds too low they have a set amount of what the vehicle should sell for and will charge you for that rate. Our last truck (diesel & used) was $1700 cheaper registered at our Missouri home than our Kansas home. Also, Missouri personal property tax is not charged till the following licensing year.

If you have a bill of sale they will honor the price, did not use to be that way, they went by book value.

colliehauler wrote:

ksbowman wrote:

otrfun wrote:

ksbowman wrote:
Just make sure it has been licensed in another state. Kansas sales tax is high (10% in some locales). $6000 on a $60,000 truck! We own land in other states so we register them the first year there.

Thanks. Does KS charge sales tax on a private-party to private-party used vehicle sale?

Yes, not only do they charge sales tax on private party to private party but, if the amount sounds too low they have a set amount of what the vehicle should sell for and will charge you for that rate. Our last truck (diesel & used) was $1700 cheaper registered at our Missouri home than our Kansas home. Also, Missouri personal property tax is not charged till the following licensing year.

If you have a bill of sale they will honor the price, did not use to be that way, they went by book value.

Colliehauler, Are you sure this hasn't changed. About 5 years ago I bought an old 5th wheel for hunting and it needed quite a bit of repair. The price I paid for it was real low and they challenged me on it at the county DMV when I tried to license it. Made me pay on the book value. I had a bill of sale , inspection and a letter from the seller saying it had a lost title that was notarized so I could get another title. Maybe it has changed since then but, I wasn't aware of it.