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rockhillmanor
Jan 19, 2015Explorer II
rhagfo wrote:Clay L wrote:rockhillmanor wrote:
What most buyers will 'never' understand is the dealerships take trade ins at "Wholesale" price. It's how any business stays in business.
I called cars for a few dealerships. Meaning I had the book and I told the salesman what the trade in was worth wholesale before he started his negotiations.
Dealserships have their very own book for that is not on line. When I sold cars it was called the black book. Came out quarterly to reflect the going chute prices or auction prices that vary up and down just like any commodity.
Since people do not understand the way of doing business. They take your trade in at wholesale and then take the discount on the purchase and add it to your trade. So people think they are getting retail for their trade.
The buyer that is upside down on their RV. I.E. owes more than what's it's worth wholesale is pretty much screwed. And are sadly the ones that complain the most because they don't understand how trade in's work.
Exactly!!
X2!
Based on the OP's story, the buyer didn't realize that his unitdeprecated markedly just pulling it off the lot
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You can negotiate, a very good price on the correct unit. That said the dealer is not in business to loose money. They may loose money just to get rid of a last year hold over, heading to being two years old, but it will not have a great floor plan or be a top of the line unit.
If you try and trade in a newer unit of one or two years old the depreciation is significant compared to what is still owed on the loan, what the seller 'owes' on the loan is what makes him upside down. The sooner you want to sell it after buying the more you will be upside down. RV's are the worst.
The dealership now has to put 'back in' the amount owned on the loan into the negotiations of buying the trade which more often than not is more money that what the wholesale price of the unit is.
With RV's, that 'depreciation' figure is SO off the chart it's one of THE big reason's I cancelled my order for a brand new DP when I started full time.
What if I didn't really like full time RV'ing? I'd be stuck with a real BIG FAT goose egg on my hands! Thank god I got my head up where it belonge before buying that one!:W
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